At this rate it’s better to start a company and get aquihired vs applying and getting hired.
Seems like OpenAI speed ran through the Facebook phase and are out of ideas
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Seems like OpenAI speed ran through the Facebook phase and are out of ideas
If they can maintain runway until then.
Quick summary, I believe consumer AI experiences will feature ads because the profit opportunity is too large and company valuations depend on it. The hiring of Fidji Simo (ads at Facebook) at OpenAI + and just this week, Vijaye Raji/Statsig also point that way.
One thing I’ve been doing is querying and storing results. For example, “what are the best books on X topic” for every topic I can possibly think that I may want to read about in the future.
I’ve found the results to be amazing if you give a sufficiently detailed prompt. I have enough reading to see me through to exit.
More likely the model will be payment for low friction enablement of transactions rather than overt steering. Pick Door #1: the LLM states the product is fit for purpose. Pick Door #2: the LLM will directly complete the transaction or close to it.
But LLMs can be used to astroturf internet spaces. Which means they allow everyone the ability to serve ads and manipulate. It's no longer just limited to the company providing the original service.
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Highly unlikely. Google's SERP is an ad-infested abomination that sometimes shows useful results, and yet people still use Google Search.
The same will happen with LLMs, except in far more subtle and insidious ways. Instead of showing you ads directly, they will be naturally interwoven in conversations, suggestions, and generated content. You won't be able to tell whether the content is genuine or promoted, as is common on the web today.
The ads will target you more accurately than ever before based on not just the data you've given them, but on the context of the conversation, your surroundings, and any other piece of real-time information they can use to secure a conversion, or to influence your thoughts on a particular matter. You will trust it more than any current ad channel since the AI will be personal, and the tone will be friendly.
As with the web, ad-free services will exist, but the only way to escape this entirely will be to use local and self-hosted models.
OpenAI already exploring and experimenting with different ad modalities privately. They’re also have a much better brand, so they might be able to avoid too much churn of customers.
I have at least one more idea in me and invest my own money to make it happen, but I don't think I'll have a 2 billion dollar exit.
But the other recommendations seemed like crap and when I followed the sources they seemed like AI generated garbage for AI that I couldn't find doing my normal searching.
OpenAI must justify ads when its competitors are not sending ads. Why would they? OpenAI models must be so good that it should be worth dealing with ads compared to say Claude or DeepSeek.
Solve this and you’ll solve the ad problem, but I’m afraid it isn’t possible because money involves controls and regulations which you can’t weasel out of and not end up in jail.
Google search is widely acknowledged as drastically drying up in the last year or so, that's despite more worldwide internet usage.
Then do it.
Since when did HN become like Reddit? Always negative about everything?
Feels like all the losers from Reddit have somehow migrated here.
How does that fit in your price model because to me it makes no sense at all yet people buy that. Same for Netflix tier with ads.
If they stopped training, then the data cutoff date is one year farther each year? How do you make money from model which is stale on data and doesn't include any recent stuff?
Would note that market share confers revenue, users and data. The last is uniquley valuable for LLM builders.
Would you trust output from OpenAI which is sponsered? I mean it's bad enough now in the ad space where they are increasingly trying to make the ads look more like content - imagine that in woven into your ChatGPT output?
The younger generation are quite used to subscription models - netflix, spotify, various gaming platforms etc. Perhaps access just becomes part of your internet access bundle.
Or, what extra money would you pay OpenAI to get a non ad powered LLM model?
It’s not hard to imagine ChatGPT just charging.
I think they're realizing what most capitalists have realized - if you don't own the whole value chain, you don't own the value.
I bet Alex won't have a dropdown to switch to Claude Sonnet for very long.
Like everything else, most people won't notice a difference and prioritize free over paid.
Good rule. Just like using a service based AI instead of a self-hosted one if you are a developer or artist.
Doing search with ChatGPT feels like doing research in a library setting whereas Google search feels like doing research in Times Square.
I've personally stopped doing that. I understand it's not a mainstream decision since most people don't even know what alternatives are there, but doesn't mean that in a couple of years google won't start to feel it.