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    192 points liurenju | 11 comments | 03 Sep 25 18:38 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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    CyberMacGyver ◴[03 Sep 25 20:45 UTC] No.45120228[source]▶
    At this rate it’s better to start a company and get aquihired vs applying and getting hired.

    Seems like OpenAI speed ran through the Facebook phase and are out of ideas

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    kridsdale3 ◴[03 Sep 25 21:00 UTC] No.45120368[source]▶
    Au contraire, based on their recent hires, they're just beginning their Facebook phase. Expect to see a lot of ads 2 years from now, and expect to see a LOT of money being made by the company a year after that.

    If they can maintain runway until then.

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    dfsegoat ◴[03 Sep 25 21:10 UTC] No.45120439[source]▶
    > Expect to see a lot of ads 2 years from now

    I think I am just slow today - but could you please elaborate?

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    bobbiechen ◴[03 Sep 25 21:30 UTC] No.45120622[source]▶
    I wrote about this idea here: https://digitalseams.com/blog/the-ai-lifestyle-subsidy-is-go...

    Quick summary, I believe consumer AI experiences will feature ads because the profit opportunity is too large and company valuations depend on it. The hiring of Fidji Simo (ads at Facebook) at OpenAI + and just this week, Vijaye Raji/Statsig also point that way.

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    1. rhubarbtree ◴[03 Sep 25 21:45 UTC] No.45120726{3}[source]▶
    We’re in a golden period where AI results are ad-free.

    One thing I’ve been doing is querying and storing results. For example, “what are the best books on X topic” for every topic I can possibly think that I may want to read about in the future.

    I’ve found the results to be amazing if you give a sufficiently detailed prompt. I have enough reading to see me through to exit.

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    2. HSO ◴[03 Sep 25 21:51 UTC] No.45120763[source]▶
    By the time this „golden“ ad free time is over in 1-2 years you should be able to run your own custom model locally
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    3. mcny ◴[03 Sep 25 22:08 UTC] No.45120916[source]▶
    One possibility is that if they can manage to lower interest rates back to zero ish, we might see a hiring frenzy in machine learning/llm/genai, starving upstarts and free software of talent, slowing progress in custom local models? Or is this too pessimistic/ "out there" of a take that requires the stars to align just right?
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    4. bloomca ◴[04 Sep 25 00:06 UTC] No.45121834{3}[source]▶
    Some models will still trickle down; hell, better/cheaper hardware should enable to run hefty models available today, and they seem to be already okay-ish with such queries.
    5. dataexec ◴[04 Sep 25 00:15 UTC] No.45121890[source]▶
    I hope so but we could also be staying in an eternal state of FOMO as the proprietary models keep getting marginally (or a lot) better.
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    7. delfinom ◴[04 Sep 25 02:23 UTC] No.45122798{3}[source]▶
    Interest rates at zero and there won't be any clients for these upstarts as people will be in bread lines from their worthless money.
    8. Larrikin ◴[04 Sep 25 04:14 UTC] No.45123511[source]▶
    I've already started getting results infiltrated by SEO but for AI. Deep research did return seemingly a top book when I was looking into Ansible. I independently verified it with my own searching in a few different places.

    But the other recommendations seemed like crap and when I followed the sources they seemed like AI generated garbage for AI that I couldn't find doing my normal searching.

    9. the_other ◴[04 Sep 25 05:57 UTC] No.45124019{3}[source]▶
    How are they better if they spam the user with ads?
    10. stevage ◴[04 Sep 25 08:00 UTC] No.45124818[source]▶
    Would you consider sharing these somewhere?
    11. pickledoyster ◴[04 Sep 25 10:33 UTC] No.45125672[source]▶
    The training data is full ads. For books, you have publisher-influenced rankings, SEO slop and promotional social media posts. It's GIGO, and has been that way from the start.