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    192 points liurenju | 17 comments | 03 Sep 25 18:38 UTC | HN request time: 0.013s | source | bottom
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    CyberMacGyver ◴[03 Sep 25 20:45 UTC] No.45120228[source]▶
    At this rate it’s better to start a company and get aquihired vs applying and getting hired.

    Seems like OpenAI speed ran through the Facebook phase and are out of ideas

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    kridsdale3 ◴[03 Sep 25 21:00 UTC] No.45120368[source]▶
    Au contraire, based on their recent hires, they're just beginning their Facebook phase. Expect to see a lot of ads 2 years from now, and expect to see a LOT of money being made by the company a year after that.

    If they can maintain runway until then.

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    1. dcchambers ◴[03 Sep 25 21:13 UTC] No.45120462[source]▶
    Are people really going to keep using these AI tools if they start shoving ads down our throats?
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    2. ornornor ◴[03 Sep 25 21:17 UTC] No.45120503[source]▶
    Worked for every tech company so far.
    3. layoric ◴[03 Sep 25 21:17 UTC] No.45120509[source]▶
    Just by the nature of the product, the manipulation will be a lot more subtle, and likely more successful than traditional ads..
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    4. jonahx ◴[03 Sep 25 21:22 UTC] No.45120556[source]▶
    It's terrifying.
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    5. ahartmetz ◴[03 Sep 25 21:23 UTC] No.45120561[source]▶
    Maybe something good comes out of the work to only push products that actually exist. /s
    6. babelfish ◴[03 Sep 25 21:34 UTC] No.45120648[source]▶
    Do you use any free web search tool?
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    7. apercu ◴[03 Sep 25 21:37 UTC] No.45120668{3}[source]▶
    And yet somehow it's even worse.
    8. rjh29 ◴[03 Sep 25 21:43 UTC] No.45120702[source]▶
    So far it's about as subtle as a slap to the face. If you set ChatGPT's personality to 'straight-shooting' it starts every answer with "blunt", "tell it like it is" or "unvarnished" and permeates that across the whole reply; by its very nature, it is unable to be subtle about anything.
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    9. Atlas667 ◴[03 Sep 25 21:44 UTC] No.45120720[source]▶
    "I feel like something is missing in my life"

    > Thinking...

    > Have you ever had that energetic and refreshing feeling after a Baja Blast(TM)?

    10. CamperBob2 ◴[03 Sep 25 22:13 UTC] No.45120950{3}[source]▶
    That hasn't been true for a while IME. Did you select 'Robot' as the personality?
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    11. rjh29 ◴[03 Sep 25 22:21 UTC] No.45121013{4}[source]▶
    I have Default personality with the traits field set to straight-shooter ("Tell it like it is; don't sugar-coat responses.") I'll try the robot one, thanks.
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    12. ants_everywhere ◴[03 Sep 25 22:25 UTC] No.45121035[source]▶
    This is true, but it doesn't go far enough. Google could serve you ads, like LLMs will.

    But LLMs can be used to astroturf internet spaces. Which means they allow everyone the ability to serve ads and manipulate. It's no longer just limited to the company providing the original service.

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    13. CamperBob2 ◴[03 Sep 25 22:32 UTC] No.45121095{5}[source]▶
    Yeah, that's a recent addition, as far as I can tell. It became available in my account a few weeks ago. I currently use 'Robot' mode, call myself a 'Researcher', and use these custom instructions:

        Answer concisely when appropriate, more extensively 
    when necessary.  Avoid rhetorical flourishes, bonhomie, 
    and (above all) cliches.  Take a forward-thinking view. 
    OK to be mildly positive and encouraging but NEVER 
    sycophantic or cloying.  Above all, NEVER use the 
    phrase "You're absolutely right."  Rather than "Let me 
    know if..." style continuations, you may list a set 
    of prompts to explore further topics, but only when 
    clearly appropriate.
    Pretty happy with the results so far. Very low BS factor (although it does ignore the last part sometimes.)
    14. dcchambers ◴[03 Sep 25 23:13 UTC] No.45121382[source]▶
    I actually switched from Google to Kagi a few years ago. Whenever possible I avoid products with advertisements.
    15. jazzyjackson ◴[04 Sep 25 02:29 UTC] No.45122839[source]▶
    Check out https://deep.ai lots of people who don't have $20/month to spend on a chatbot are happy to have ad impressions subsidize what model they get to use
    16. cutemonster ◴[04 Sep 25 13:06 UTC] No.45126832{3}[source]▶
    I think they'd inject ads during training (too). You and everyone cannot do that; Google can.
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    17. ants_everywhere ◴[04 Sep 25 17:56 UTC] No.45130144{4}[source]▶
    why would they inject ads during training?