What I learned gathering nootropic ratings (2022)

It's amazing what <any form of daily movement> + a diet of "real"/non-processed foods will do for your health.

> non-processed foods

Do you really not eat bread? We've got to come up with better ways to categorize foods. At face value such a term seems to imply you should only eat raw food.

I do avoid eating (highly processed white) bread in most meals, because it doesn't make me feel great.

We're really targeting "highly-processed" foods. Personally I draw a line between sausage that went through something resembling a hand-powered meat grinder vs. sausage that has been obliterated into a fine pink sludge and reformed. Both are processed, but the latter is highly processed, with more room for additives.

It is not difficult to make your own bread as well, so easily avoided eating non-processed bread.

> so easily avoided eating non-processed bread.

How do you make bread without flour? Flour is a processed food.

The issue with sausage isn't the processing, it's the preservatives and the choice of meats (and their corresponding nutrients) that go into the sausage.

My understanding is that degree of "processing" is acknowledged to be an imperfect metric, just one that fits easily with EU labeling concerns. I just don't think that's as useful as is advertised.

I genuinely don't eat bread. Terrible carb source.

I'll eat steel cut oats, quinoa, rice, beans/lentils, etc.

But not bread.

What makes bread a bad source of carbs?

It's glycemic index score

Ah, are you diabetic?

While yes, flour is ground and therefore processed - I think we all mean bleached, stabilized and enriched flour.

> I think we all mean bleached, stabilized and enriched flour.

The entire point of this conversation is that the meaning of "processed" is entirely unclear, and I still don't understand what beef you have against bleached, stabilized, and enriched flour.

I'd put any amount of money that whatever your concerns are can be addressed with the aphorism "everything in moderation".

The aphorism "everything in moderation" is useful only because it doesn't specify what amount would be acceptable as moderation. Is having a slice of bread a day considered moderation? What about five slices? Is having 10 grams of sugar a day moderation? What about 50 grams? The meaning of "moderation" is conveniently unclear.

Trust the selectively funded science bro.

I’m not even talking about the fact that flour is processed in the general sense. The generic sliced grocery store loaf itself has added preservatives, sugar, etc that you wouldn’t find in a homemade loaf. When people talk about eating non-processed foods they usually mean eating whole (ex. Fruits, vegetables) or foods without preservatives and stabilizers.