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Tesla sales drop for fifth month in a row in Europe

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152 points doener | 15 comments | 29 Jun 25 21:50 UTC | HN request time: 0.663s | source | bottom
1. moomin ◴[29 Jun 25 22:21 UTC] No.44417081[source]▶
What’s the point in a luxury brand where you’re embarrassed to be seen displaying the logo? I don’t think I’ve ever seen brand impairment like this that didn’t result in the brand being retired. The only way forward I can see for them in Europe is partnership with a European firm and I can’t see that working either.
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2. mslansn ◴[29 Jun 25 22:42 UTC] No.44417274[source]▶
Do people really care about this that much? The European company that made my car probably uses its social media and ad presence to spread progressivism, which I’m completely against, but what are we supposed to do, find and buy only from companies that we identify with politically? That would be very hard and limiting. And somewhat stupid too (as stupid as a car company taking a political stance, or people that think that buying from some company means you identify with their politics, but here we are!)
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3. bogwog ◴[29 Jun 25 22:51 UTC] No.44417345[source]▶
Do people care that one of the most powerful men in the world has become an enthusiastic cheerleader for the ignorant beliefs and dangerous rhetoric that led to the deadliest war in human history?

Yes, I believe they do.

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4. piva00 ◴[29 Jun 25 23:03 UTC] No.44417419[source]▶
Yes, they do. When 70+ years old grandparents in Sweden are aware of the bad image the brand brings, it's dead.

When I personally know two cases of that, 70 years old disconnected from internet vitriol, I assume it's absolutely dead.

5. drivingmenuts ◴[29 Jun 25 23:39 UTC] No.44417651[source]▶
That’s the beauty of living in a free country. You can choose to spend money with companies that share your values. Personally, I wouldn’t give my money to a neo-Nazi bootlicker, but you do you.
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6. arp242 ◴[29 Jun 25 23:58 UTC] No.44417760[source]▶
If you think "progressivism" is somehow on equal footing as one of the worst genocides in history then you are morally bankrupt. Several of my family died under the Nazi regime, and I'm not even Jewish or other Untermensch group. This is not unusual in Europe. There's a reason purchases dropped off a cliff after the Sieg Heil specifically, and not before when he merely had some questionable politics.
7. rsynnott ◴[30 Jun 25 11:36 UTC] No.44422021[source]▶
I don't think I've ever seen brand impairment like this, full stop. Certainly not for a large consumer product manufacturer.
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8. ethbr1 ◴[30 Jun 25 12:14 UTC] No.44422308[source]▶
MyPillow? /s
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9. rsynnott ◴[30 Jun 25 14:16 UTC] No.44423589{3}[source]▶
Huh. I had kind of assumed that this was a vestigial company attached to a crazy CEO, but it appears to have been, at least at one time, quite big.
10. moomin ◴[30 Jun 25 15:12 UTC] No.44424324[source]▶
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ratner

The UK has definitely seen it before!

11. StochasticLi ◴[30 Jun 25 21:16 UTC] No.44427967[source]▶
Jacob & Co. Watches recently
12. averageRoyalty ◴[02 Jul 25 08:45 UTC] No.44441407{3}[source]▶
You probably do all the time, you just don't know it.
13. averageRoyalty ◴[02 Jul 25 08:49 UTC] No.44441426{3}[source]▶
Why? I'm sure the CEOs of most big companies we all give money to daily are evil people. Even if not, I'm sure some of their senior management, or even their janitor is a horrible person.

This is the same confusion I have when someone decides to boycott a movie based on an actor. It's very likely some of the hundreds of people who make most movies are awful too, it's entirely futile.

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14. lawn ◴[02 Jul 25 18:33 UTC] No.44447242{4}[source]▶
The best way to let people get away with this kind of behavior is to be completely apathetic about it.

So give yourself a clap on the back, you're an enabler.

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15. averageRoyalty ◴[03 Jul 25 12:44 UTC] No.44454438{5}[source]▶
To what extent? If you find out that a second camera operator in 200 odd films was a child molester, would you then make a point to avoid all of their prior films? If you found out someone who worked the production line of your favourite chocolate was a neo nazi, would you stop eating that chocolate?

We only seem to care when the person who is bad is also famous. I think everyone else is just as apathetic, but deludes themselves. I promise you that most things you own or use have some tier of evil within them. People buy cheap clothes, slave made phones and all sorts of things all the time and elect to ignore the imorality of it.