Most active commenters

    ←back to thread

    612 points meetpateltech | 15 comments | | HN request time: 1.018s | source | bottom
    Show context
    mohsen1 ◴[] No.42950852[source]

    > available via the Gemini API in Google AI Studio and Vertex AI.

    > Gemini 2.0, 2.0 Pro and 2.0 Pro Experimental, Gemini 2.0 Flash, Gemini 2.0 Flash Lite

    3 different ways of accessing the API, more than 5 different but extremely similarly named models. Benchmarks only comparing to their own models.

    Can't be more "Googley"!

    replies(7): >>42950889 #>>42950921 #>>42951056 #>>42951310 #>>42952327 #>>42954910 #>>42967480 #
    1. raverbashing ◴[] No.42951056[source]

    Honestly naming conventions in the AI world have been appalling regardless of the company

    replies(4): >>42951246 #>>42951304 #>>42952496 #>>42953133 #
    2. belval ◴[] No.42951246[source]

    Google isn't even the worst in my opinion. From the top of my head

    Anthropic:

    Claude 1 Claude Instant 1 Claude 2 Claude Haiku 3 Claude Sonnet 3 Claude Opus 3 Claude Haiku 3.5 Claude Sonnet 3.5 Claude Sonnet 3.5v2

    OpenAI:

    GPT-3.5 GPT-4 GPT-4o-2024-08-06 GPT-4o GPT-4o-mini o1 o3-mini o1-mini

    Fun times when you try to setup throughput provisioning.

    replies(3): >>42951345 #>>42960376 #>>42968149 #
    3. ◴[] No.42951304[source]
    4. jorvi ◴[] No.42951345[source]

    I don't understand why if they're gonna use shorthands to make the tech seem cooler, they can't at least use mnemonic shorthands.

    Imagine if it went like this:

      Mnemonics: m(ini), r(easoning), t(echnical)
    
      Claude 3m
      Claude 3mr
      Claude 3mt
      Claude 3mtr
      Claude 3r
      Claude 3t
      Claude 3tr
    5. jug ◴[] No.42952496[source]

    Google is the least confusing to me. Old school version number and Pro is better than Flash which is fast and for "simple" stuff (which can be effortless intermediate level coding at this point).

    OpenAI is crazy. There may be a day when we might have o5 that is reasoning and 5o that is not, and where they belong to different generations too, snd where "o" meant "Omni" despite o1-o3 not being audiovisual anymore like 4o.

    Anthropic crazy too. Sonnets and Haikus, just why... and a 3.5 Sonnet that was released in October that was better than 3.5 Sonnet. (Not a typo) And no one knows why there never was a 3.5 Opus.

    replies(3): >>42952907 #>>42953547 #>>42956515 #
    6. ◴[] No.42952907[source]
    7. dpkirchner ◴[] No.42953133[source]

    Mistral vs mistral.rs, Llama and llama.cpp and ollama, groq and grok. It's all terrible.

    replies(1): >>42953682 #
    8. NitpickLawyer ◴[] No.42953547[source]

    > And no one knows why there never was a 3.5 Opus.

    If you read between the lines it's been pretty clear. The top labs are keeping the top models in house and use them to train the next generation (either SotA or faster/cheaper etc).

    9. danielbln ◴[] No.42953682[source]

    Claude Sonnet 3.5...no, not that 3.5, the new 3.5. o3-mini, no not o2. yes there was o1, yes it's better than gpt-4o.

    replies(1): >>42965138 #
    10. esafak ◴[] No.42956515[source]

    4o is a more advanced model than o1 or o3, right!?

    replies(2): >>42957322 #>>42963561 #
    11. vitorgrs ◴[] No.42957322{3}[source]

    Imagine when they launch o4...

    12. rfoo ◴[] No.42960376[source]

    It's

    GPT-3.5 GPT-4 GPT-4-turbo GPT-4o-2024-08-06 GPT-4o GPT-4o-mini o1-preview o1 (low) o1 (medium) o1 (high) o1-mini o3-mini (low) o3-mini (medium) o3-mini (high)

    At this pace we are going to get to USB 3.2 Gen 1 real fast.

    13. wellthisisgreat ◴[] No.42963561{3}[source]

    Wait is it?? o1 is more expensive I think

    14. sunaookami ◴[] No.42965138{3}[source]

    Don't forget that o3 is actually the second model in the o-series but can't be named o2 due to obvious reasons.

    15. pkaye ◴[] No.42968149[source]

    > GPT-4o-2024-08-06 GPT-4o

    From what I understand GPT-4o will map to the most recent generated model so it will change over time. The models with the date appended will not change over time.