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voidUpdate ◴[] No.45063021[source]
I'm still convinced that it being called "full self driving" is misleading marketing and really needs to stop, since it isn't according to Tesla
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acdha ◴[] No.45063088[source]
Why do you think Musk put so much money into helping Trump win? Tesla was under multiple investigations for safety and unkept promises, and he knew that he would not have leverage to halt those under a Harris administration.
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myrmidon ◴[] No.45063332[source]
I'm absolutely not a fan of Trump, but this is a highly questionable assumption.

The much more likely hypothesis in my view is that he was helping Trump because of personal conviction (only in small parts motivated by naked self-interest).

You should expect rational billionaires to tend politically right out of pure self-interest and distorted perspective alone; because the universal thing that such parties reliably do when in power is cutting tax burden on the top end.

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antonvs ◴[] No.45063429[source]
Musk is on record saying to Tucker Carlson that “If [Trump] loses, I’m fucked.”

So this isn't so much of an assumption, as taking him at his word.

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unnamed76ri ◴[] No.45063530[source]
The Left was coming after Musk pretty hard before the election. I don’t know the context of the quote you pulled but it’s not hard to see how if Trump lost, there was going to be consequences for Musk.
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Swenrekcah ◴[] No.45063613[source]
He has committed a lot of fraud and was facing consequences for that. That has nothing to do with left or right.
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terminalshort ◴[] No.45063864[source]
Can you give an example of these many instances of fraud?
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Swenrekcah ◴[] No.45064150[source]
For instance he has made fraudulent statements regarding the current and near future capabilities of Tesla in an effort to inflate stock prices numerous times. He was in fact ordered by a judge to stop making such statements but he didn’t obey that.

He used to be quite charismatic, I believed him up until about 2017 or so. Then I figured he was just a bit greedy and maybe money got to his head but still a respectable innovator. However during 2020 or 2021 (I don’t exactly remember) he started to get quite unpleasant and making obviously short-term decisions, such as relying only on cameras for self driving because of chip shortages but dressing it up as an engineering decision.

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1. terminalshort ◴[] No.45065200[source]
I just can't take the accusation of lying to increase stock price seriously because Elon has on occasion come right out and said the stock is overvalued https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1256239815256797184

You will basically never hear another CEO of another publicly traded company say this. I just don't believe that the same person who cares so little about his stock price that he sends a tweet like that (and the stock dropped 10% on it) also is making fraudulent statements to inflate the price. A better explanation is that he just says what he thinks without regard for the stock price, which is also something you won't see any other CEO of a publicly traded company do.