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lokar ◴[] No.42200889[source]
I see apple as like LVMH, but for phones. It has a minority of overall sales, but a majority of the “luxury” part of the market. This gives them influence over the whole market, but not a real monopoly.
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dismalaf ◴[] No.42201067[source]
It's strange how they've convinced people that, considering there's nothing at all luxurious about their products, not even the price...
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bobbylarrybobby ◴[] No.42201442[source]
What's luxurious about Apple products is that they tend to respect your time
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makeitdouble ◴[] No.42201662[source]
Does your time feel respected when you're leaving the Kindle app to open a web browser, search for the book that was next in the series, buy it, and get back to your Kindle app to continue reading ?
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stogot ◴[] No.42204357[source]
Ouch, this just happened to me the other day and it was irritating that Apple forces other companies to force users to do a dance
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slowmovintarget ◴[] No.42204998[source]
They don't force it. Amazon, for example, just doesn't want to pay the 30% platform cut. Understandable, but not force, just deterrence.
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1. FireBeyond ◴[] No.42208558[source]
"just doesn't want to pay"

How unchivalrous of them.

I have no earthly idea what Apple has done to earn 30% of the sale of an eBook by Amazon for the Kindle.

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2. slowmovintarget ◴[] No.42209166[source]
Yeah, how hard can it be to field a successful mobile platform with global software delivery and integrated payments. Maybe Amazon should have... Oh... right, they tried and failed with Fire phones.

I have no idea if the cut is 30%, but that's the same cut that Amazon takes from an author when they sell a Kindle eBook (and sometimes that goes as high as 70%). What on earth did Amazon do to earn that much of an author's sale...

I have little sympathy for Amazon, the largest retailer in the world, trying to play in someone else's playground. You can buy directly from your Kindle if you really have to have that browse-and-buy experience, but the iPhone app really is more convenient, isn't it?

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3. makeitdouble ◴[] No.42210123[source]
> how hard can it be to field a successful mobile platform with global software delivery and integrated payments.

About as hard as opening a new phone network rivaling ATT back in the days, apparently.

If neither Amazon nor Microsoft couldn't do it you know it's not a matter of money and willingness to do it.

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4. dismalaf ◴[] No.42217371{3}[source]
Microsoft even had first mover advantage, acquired the largest cell phone maker in the world and still failed...
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5. makeitdouble ◴[] No.42221325{4}[source]
The largest cell phone maker in the world has been either Samsung or ZTE for a dozen years.

If you're referring to the Nokia acquisition, it was way past prime and relevance, at a time when Chinese makers were already on the rise.