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Apple fights to keep DOJ antitrust suit from reaching trial

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112 points thunderbong | 8 comments | 21 Nov 24 00:03 UTC | HN request time: 1.437s | source | bottom
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lokar ◴[21 Nov 24 03:44 UTC] No.42200889[source]▶
I see apple as like LVMH, but for phones. It has a minority of overall sales, but a majority of the “luxury” part of the market. This gives them influence over the whole market, but not a real monopoly.
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1. makeitdouble ◴[21 Nov 24 05:01 UTC] No.42201290[source]▶
This was the old Apple under Jobs.

Tim Cook made it a juggernaut that holds more than half the market in many areas, can buyout whole supplies of a specific technology (e.g. TSMC and their 3nm process?), influences the relationships with a whole country (China) and has the size to weather most battles (e.g. the fight with the EU).

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2. Cumpiler69 ◴[21 Nov 24 11:32 UTC] No.42203253[source]▶
The magic of vertical integration.
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3. account42 ◴[21 Nov 24 15:13 UTC] No.42205047[source]▶
More like the magic of decades without sufficient antitrust enforcement.
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4. rogerrogerr ◴[21 Nov 24 15:27 UTC] No.42205226{3}[source]▶
People here are always telling me that modern MacBooks are nothing special and I can get a better deal on a Windows laptop. Which is it? Seems like it can’t be a monopoly _and_ face stiff competition from Windows.

(I’m not interested in the green-bubble stuff; that argument holds no weight with me - especially since iOS supports RCS now)

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5. Cumpiler69 ◴[21 Nov 24 15:59 UTC] No.42205619{4}[source]▶
The anti-trust issues are related to the iOS marketspace. MacBooks has nothing to do with this. Please stop injecting your conjecture to move the goalposts of the discussion.
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6. rogerrogerr ◴[21 Nov 24 16:16 UTC] No.42205815{5}[source]▶
Okay, Cumpiler69. Thanks for keeping the discussion professional.
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7. preciousoo ◴[21 Nov 24 16:55 UTC] No.42206233{6}[source]▶
I agree with you for the most part but is all this necessary?
8. Glyptodon ◴[22 Nov 24 01:52 UTC] No.42210478{4}[source]▶
I don't know what "geen bubble stuff" means, but it's totally plausible that there's a monopoly on mobile devices and/or the app store, but not on PCs overall.