There's more infrastructure under urban roads. Crews come in to fix some utility, shred a section of a lane, patch it poorly with dissimilar materials, and leave.
There's more infrastructure under urban roads. Crews come in to fix some utility, shred a section of a lane, patch it poorly with dissimilar materials, and leave.
Regardless, I suspect there's a point being made about the timeless ineptitude of bureaucracy (even if I don't agree with it—some cultures are notably more competent at managing logistics of public works than other are).
Among these laws were civil penalties for builders who performed shoddy workmanship:
> If a builder constructs a house for a man but does not make it conform to specifications so that a wall then buckles, that builder shall make that wall sound using his own silver.
By the way, the Romans also had building codes, and engineers who built bridges and roads were liable for the durability of those structures, thus a tradition of over-engineering.
I don't think Wikipedia gets to the point quickly enough for this context to be relevant.
Whether the OP was making a poorly-articulated point by merely bringing up Hammurabi and expecting the reader to know about his history with building codes, I think, is a separate issue. Anyone with a basic education should have heard of Hammurabi, though they may have forgotten the specifics about him. And finding a Wikipedia link on your own is trivial.
I merely mentioned that your and other claims that "anyone with a high school education has to have heard of him" is bollocks.
I have both a high school and university degree and have never heard of him and don't think I need to have.
Now you even claim someone with a "basic education" should've heard of him (meaning someone that didn't even finish high school). If you doubt that, Google about different countries' school systems and what would go for "basic" education.
That said you definitely would've nerd sniped me with a link and if these replies here on HN hadn't been there to catch my interest first I would have just googled him.
Basically by trying to be a smart ass and belittling others you harmed your own cause so to speak.
I question the value of your education.
Have you also never heard of Shakespeare or Bach?
Parent definitely would've nerd sniped me with a link and if these replies here on HN hadn't been there to catch my interest first I would have just googled him.
Basically by trying to be a smart ass and belittling others they harmed their own cause of making Hammurabi more widely known.
You are reading way too much into someone not documenting their comment.
> they harmed their own cause
To me it looks like you and others paid even more attention this way.
> their own cause of making Hammurabi more widely known
I don't think that was their goal?
Or just do it for kicks and to feel better about himself.
But it's lo_zamoyski that made the reference.
Yet shiroiushi is the one directly insulting my (and others that I'm referencing as not having had to have heard of him)'s education without knowing anything about said education.
Depending on very specific and exact place of upbringing and schooling, there are a myriad of differences in what is regular curriculum or not. This is a global forum too, so it's even "worse" in that sense for making very absolute statements like shiroiushi has.
Has every Bachelor of Computer Science had to take a course that included learning about how regular expressions are implemented and had to implement a regular expression parser? I sure did, mandatory course and wouldn't have been able to get the BA and then go on from that even further without it at my university. Yet I've met people from other universities that didn't. Do I insult them and their education for it? I don't!
It isn't, but it was discovered early and benefited from intense popular interest in the Bible. Popular interest in Mesopotamian history fell off sharply as it turned out that history generally differed from what the Bible said.
It's still very early, roughly the 18th century BC.
>> If a builder constructs a house for a man but does not make it conform to specifications so that a wall then buckles, that builder shall make that wall sound using his own silver.
This is obviously a statement about who bears liability for fixing the wall, but it's funnier if you imagine it as a requirement for the builder to repair the wall with silver bricks, as a penalty for the original shoddy work.
> I have both a high school and university degree and have never heard of him
With all due respect, it's far more likely that you have heard of him, but you didn't retain the information.
For anyone who went through that, he’s another “the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell”-type answer form 6th grade tests or whatever.
You can find the US state standards used to set baseline requirements ("learning standards") for school district curriculums online, for most (all?) states.
Let's take an infamously-bad state for education ("Thank God For Mississippi") and famously good one (Massachussetts).
Cmd/ctrl-F "hamm" on this one to find it for Mississippi:
https://www.mdek12.org/sites/default/files/Page_Docs/final_2...
(Theirs is a little weird [probably because their government's, you know, bad] and this comes from a non-profit organization, but it seems to in-fact be the official curriculum standards for their actual BOE, as well)
Here's Massachusetts:
https://www.doe.mass.edu/frameworks/hss/2018-12.pdf
Same deal, you'll find it with a search ("Hamm" also finds one occurrence of Muhammad, in this case, though, but it does get a few hits on Hammurabi)
A person may have missed it due to: 1) going to schools outside the US that maybe don't emphasize Hammurabi, or 2) moving between US school systems that don't teach Hammurabi in the same year(s), such that they leave one before it's taught and arrive at the other after it's been taught.
However, whatever your schooling included, after reading through the entirety of the Wikipedia article I can say with absolute certainty that none of it rang any bells and it very much was not part of my schooling and I did not happen to come across it afterwards by accident such as through this article.
Like also hinted at in that sibling thread, there are other quite local historic figures I could cite which I know for a fact are locally well known but not otherwise. All through talking to colleagues and friends from other countries (or even just parts within a single country). What really got me both in your and their replies is this absolutist certainty. The world is so full of differences and yet somehow some people feel the need to express things like you do here in such absolute terms and no other realities seem to be possible to exist.