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The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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1680 points etbusch | 4 comments | 19 May 22 12:19 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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doyougnu ◴[19 May 22 17:07 UTC] No.31437263[source]▶
I recently bought a framework laptop for a daily driver when I'm not on my desktop. For context I was running NixOS on an old 2014 macbook air, and I work on the glasgow haskell compiler in my day job so I do a lot of CPU heavy tasks.

I've got to say, as long as these things are being produced I'll never go back. They are just too good and I cannot recommend them highly enough. One of the things that didn't occur to me before I bought it was that _because_ of the modular design I can switch the side the power port is on. That may not seem like much but it was a revelation the first time I sat on the couch and thought "huh I really wish this was over on that side....wait a minute!".

I've also had absolutely no problems with NixOS on my machine, even my apple earbuds easily connect via bluetooth, something that I never quite got working on my macbook.

10/10 This is damn close to my dream laptop and I'm excited a new version is on the way.

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fiddlerwoaroof ◴[19 May 22 19:36 UTC] No.31439099[source]▶
This is interesting: over the last several months, a friend has been running NixOS on a Framework and has been told by Framework employees that they can’t help him with Linux kernel issues because he’s using an unsupported OS and he’s also had lots of complaints about battery life and power management.

I love the idea of the Framework, but it seems to suffer from all the issues that made me switch to MacBooks in the first place.

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lukeschlather ◴[19 May 22 20:00 UTC] No.31439419[source]▶
doyougnu was previously running NixOS on a Macbook so their bar for "working" is probably much lower than a normal person's.

I'm on Windows, but if a Linux could give me reliable power management I would switch in a heartbeat. I don't know what it would take to have sensible power management on Linux without major issues.

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loudmax ◴[19 May 22 20:14 UTC] No.31439600[source]▶
I get six to eight hours on my Thinkpad, running Arch Linux.

This did not happen out of the box. I think I got like two hours of battery life before I began tuning parameters. As usual, the Arch wiki is an excellent resource even if you're running a different distro: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Power_management

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1. R0b0t1 ◴[19 May 22 20:39 UTC] No.31439882{3}[source]▶
That's impressive. I've done the equivalent of tuning everything and still wound up with battery lifetime half of what it should be on Windows.

There's also specific programs that are really bad. Edge used to add 2-4 hours extra battery life when using my Surface to read PDFs. If I used Firefox, it was shorter by a very noticeable amount.

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2. trelane ◴[19 May 22 22:53 UTC] No.31441205[source]▶
Does straight chrome have similar battery performance?
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3. R0b0t1 ◴[20 May 22 04:31 UTC] No.31443364[source]▶
Chrome was worse compared to MS's Edge, but Chrome based Edge seems worse than previous Edge. My testing isn't as exhaustive on the new Edge.
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4. trelane ◴[20 May 22 12:28 UTC] No.31446429{3}[source]▶
Huh. Wonder what the secret sauce is that apparently they can't release upstream. Open source FTW?