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1. corysama ◴[] No.25974578[source]
From the menu, hit P to turn on Playlist Mode. That should default to on. Without that, it seems to just play one vid on repeat until you "change channels".
2. bitwize ◴[] No.25974696[source]
Ooooh, nice-talgic! I'm reminded of the fact that the menus for the DVD release of Wayne's World (1992) were an approximate replica of the Prevue Guide of the day -- a channel dedicated to (Amiga-generated!) scrolling program listings for your particular cable system. The DVD menus even displayed movie trailers in the upper half for other Paramount DVD releases, the same way Prevue did for movies showing on premium movie channels.
3. droptablemain ◴[] No.25974850[source]
This is fun.
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4. brassattax ◴[] No.25974851[source]
It is missing this: https://battaglia.ddns.net/twc/
5. xtiansimon ◴[] No.25974884[source]
Yeah. Real tv was much more boring. Haha
6. j3th9n ◴[] No.25974912[source]
Comments on this from 5 years ago, just for reference: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10308004
7. pan69 ◴[] No.25974943[source]
There's some pretty explicit stuff in there.

https://my90stv.com/#t91RVPnehDo

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9. boomboomsubban ◴[] No.25975016[source]
I love the way each channel change takes you to a new webpage, meaning you need to press "back" button multiple times to leave. Truly makes it feel like the 90's.
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10. SV_BubbleTime ◴[] No.25975043[source]
Nothing like that was on any TV i watched in the 90s.

Seems like something that I would have heard poorly described by some friend who had a giant sat dish in their yard and figured out how to reposition it when Dad wasn’t home.

11. SirLotsaLocks ◴[] No.25975069[source]
I love coming across things like this. This is what makes the internet so cool to me, being able to just watch tv from decades ago completely wild.
12. personlurking ◴[] No.25975086[source]
I realize this is a site about the past, but I really hope this is the future. I want an internet of specialty sites, browsable curations, diversity of offering, freedom of choice, and full of the quirky/unusual. It might have to do with growing up in the 90s and experiencing that kind of world wide web, w/o walled gardens.

Several years back, perhaps even via an HN post or comment, I came across a blog, hosted on a university network (IIRC, perhaps related to media studies). The page consisted of a group of possibly graduate students contributing some of the weirdest and most obscure media I've ever seen online. Nothing obscene and nothing seemingly new/current, so it was rather hipster in that sense, but I kick myself for not having saved the URL.

Nothing says I need to use walled gardens or get my news from the big networks, but I often feel I'm being pointed that way. In the end, I just want something different than what's usually being served up.

(It doesn't escape me that this 90's TV site is full of walled garden/big network type content of the time)

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13. disgrunt ◴[] No.25975107[source]
This link took me to a Nine Inch Nails music video.
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14. violetgarden ◴[] No.25975119[source]
I even like the commercials! You don’t realize how slick everything is nowadays. It’s kinda nice to see something simpler.
15. dre85 ◴[] No.25975175[source]
Just out of curiosity, where is all of this content coming from?
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16. mhh__ ◴[] No.25975193[source]
YouTube, or at least some of it is. On mobile it doesn't work properly and you can see the borders and titles from YouTube.
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17. JohnJamesRambo ◴[] No.25975222[source]
I hit 1993 and David Letterman came on and I’m awash in nostalgia for what seems like such a simpler, happier time. People liked each other. They could concentrate longer than three seconds. Dave and Paul are genuinely laughing and everything is all right.

What a fantastic website.

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18. amlib ◴[] No.25975251[source]
Now the next step is to add a VCR so I can take a bathroom break and then keep watching from where I left off :)
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19. pan69 ◴[] No.25975275{3}[source]
The music is Nine Inch Nails but the video certainly isn't.
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20. jandrese ◴[] No.25975356[source]
It's so eurotrash I can't believe they're singing in English.

When I was growing up this is what I imagined Cable TV must be like.

21. sircastor ◴[] No.25975370[source]
Reminds me of the betamaxmas site I stumbled across a few years back. It’s not hard to forget what watching television used to be like. I’m still caught by surprise at how many commercials there are in a given broadcast.
22. cheezeburger ◴[] No.25975375[source]
One of the coolest things I've seen so far this year. "Have you seen The Rock vs Ken Shamrock for the Intercontinental Title on Raw last night ?" Man ... I miss all this.
23. smnrchrds ◴[] No.25975431{3}[source]
And in Canada, I see the YouTube's "this content in not available in your country" quite often.
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24. cheezeburger ◴[] No.25975440[source]
Did y'all know Ben Shapiro was in a boys band in his previous career ? -> https://my90stv.com/#q3qDESAvzh0
25. smaili ◴[] No.25975458[source]
Fondest 90s TV for me was TGIF, no better way to end the week then sitting with your family in front of the TV on Fridays watching those shows.
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26. hallman76 ◴[] No.25975473[source]
If this hits you in the nostalgia, check out this project[1]. It uses raspberry pis to broadcast content over "channels" using existing coax to simplify finding something good to watch.

[1] https://hackaday.com/2020/02/07/raspberry-pi-serves-up-24-ho...

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27. f430 ◴[] No.25975506[source]
maybe ppl were happier in a sense that ignorance is bliss. they simply did not have access to information like we have.
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28. f430 ◴[] No.25975526{4}[source]
Canada has its own unique 90s tv identity.

I was raised by YTV and The Zone.

29. hallman76 ◴[] No.25975532[source]
We're getting closer and closer to this commercial from the late 90s for Quest Communications https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ9qcp6Lcno
30. GizmoSwan ◴[] No.25975561[source]
It is awesome. Watched 1990s computer chronicles East Coast Vs West coast quiz test with 1990s computer gurus. It was filmed in World Trade Center. It had Bill Gates in it!
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31. pcdoodle ◴[] No.25975607[source]
This is super awesome!
32. onedr0p ◴[] No.25975643[source]
I've been bingeing Computer Chronicles on YouTube, as someone who was born in the late 80s and started really getting involved with computers in the early 2000s it fascinates me.
33. CyberDildonics ◴[] No.25975688[source]
A year after the Los Angeles riots due to four officers being acquitted of excessive force even though they were recorded beating a single black man on the ground?
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34. jackvalentine ◴[] No.25975737[source]
But only after the program you were watching finishes!
35. easton ◴[] No.25975756[source]
Alternatively, this project hooks up to an existing Plex server and allows you to build channels that can then be connected to over the network (VLC, or anything else that can take a stream, including Plex’s live tv function).

https://github.com/vexorian/dizquetv

36. game_the0ry ◴[] No.25975783[source]
I really miss the 90s.

Is it just me or did the mood of the times have a sense levity and optimism that just isn't present today in 2021? I think so and I see it in the older tv shows.

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37. halayli ◴[] No.25975791[source]
coincidentally, I was just looking at Puffer project couple days ago when I was remembering how I used to couch surf and flip channels instantly.

https://puffer.stanford.edu

38. TedDoesntTalk ◴[] No.25975838[source]
How editable are the resources/content to make an 80s and a 70s version?
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39. TedDoesntTalk ◴[] No.25975867[source]
Things were NOT simpler. The problems were different. When you are living them in the moment, they are every bit as large as your problems are now.

And fwiw, people in the 90s looked back on the 50s and thought “oh what a simpler, happier time.”

It’s a filtered lens you’re using and you are deluding yourself if you think that any time before you had it simpler and happier simply because they did not have “X” or “Y” that you do today.

How about date rape epidemics in the 90s? And women’s right and outlook for careers and equal pay?

LGBTQ rights? Hahahahahah

I mean, I can go on if you want?

I’m guessing you were a kid in 90s so things were simpler and happier for YOU because you did not have to worry about adult problems?

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40. f430 ◴[] No.25975871{3}[source]
I distinctly remember the damage to Korean businesses during this time (sacrificed everything to come to America and start business in dangerous low income ghettos and proceeded to lose it all without the government helping) which seems to be an after thought very much like the businesses damaged by subset of BLM rioters but the difference is the rate and speed of information that distinctly produce a very different state of the collective mind.

The reason 90s were much simpler times were because all we had was the TV, mainstream news media outlets, which we know today as far removed from actual journalism. You could turn it off and read a book or play video games (which also suffer from the curse of connectivity today and makes multiplayer a lot more toxic experience).

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41. craz8 ◴[] No.25975872[source]
This entirely depends on when you were born.

For older people, the 50s and 60s were that. For others slightly older than you, the 80s were that.

For people younger than you, the 2000s were great!

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42. paranoidrobot ◴[] No.25975874[source]
There's already links on the page to the 70s and 80s version of the site.
43. homero ◴[] No.25975958[source]
Now it's back, try escaping linkedin
44. mypalmike ◴[] No.25975985{3}[source]
We also didn't have access to targeted disinformation campaigns at the same scale. There's a lot of angry ignorance spreading these days.
45. bestnameever ◴[] No.25976013[source]
I've always thought something shifted after 9/11.
46. Larrikin ◴[] No.25976032{3}[source]
As someone who is not white, the thought of using a time machine and ending up in 1950s america is a terrifying thought.
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47. mypalmike ◴[] No.25976035{4}[source]
The video is actually from Nine Inch Nails.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_(song)

48. oscargrouch ◴[] No.25976050[source]
Human societies must have a free road to organize themselves and grow in a organic way.

Unfortunately our virtual world are built in a way to addict us with content we create ourselves giving a few monopolists total control of our virtual presence.

I'm boarded in a project to think in another approach, in a way the give us more power and freedom to shape our virtual collective consciousness..

Without us figuring out a way to get us all out of this trap, i don't see a very bright future for us, and the current political and social status-quo are a clear sign of what all this is making to us.

The power and control is too concentrated in the hands of a few, and its easier than ever to pull all the strings from a couple of places.

Eg. If we have a dozens of key people to agree into some plan to permanent power and control, it will be impossible for us to take our freedom back, of course it will not look like any sort of government that we have witnessed before.

I know this is a conspiracy theory and i dont like it myself, but its pretty possible and easier to happen with all the technological status-quo and tech monopolies we have nowadays.

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49. acatsdream ◴[] No.25976068{3}[source]
Let us be stronger.
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50. acatsdream ◴[] No.25976078[source]
https://youtu.be/9vyZK_CKkZo
51. jdkee ◴[] No.25976108{3}[source]
"Human societies must have a free road to organize themselves and grow in a organic way."

How does this happen in the monoculture of the global internet, where local heterogenous subcultures (music, art, cuisine, traditions, languages) are eradicated?

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52. disillusioned ◴[] No.25976112[source]
There was a fantastic site which was basically exactly this called YouTube Time Machine. You could select the categories and the year and it was magical.

This is a pretty good facsimile of that! Wish they had 50s and 60s as well, but still.

53. CyberDildonics ◴[] No.25976135{4}[source]
To be clear, you are saying you think the los angeles riots were a happier time (the original poster said happier) and that main stream news is not real journalism?
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54. oscargrouch ◴[] No.25976253{4}[source]
The globalization movement that started in the 90's, have no way back. It was the right direction to take anyway..

The question is how much resilient we are to create and cultivate local stuff over the global noise.. I'm pretty sure that despite the difficulty of the task, we can handle it..

But we must have the proper tools to make it flourish.. but my fear is that while we are figuring out all this, some big players decide to replay the titanic wars devouring their children before they get too powerful..

Its not happening yet, because there are barely no threats, but once they start to show up and become trends, i don't expect them to play nice.

And with all the power and control "they" have, it will not be like any old industry vs. newcomers we have witnessed before.

(BTW the matrix app being kicked out of peoples cell phones might be a sign of what will come)

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55. TedDoesntTalk ◴[] No.25976274{3}[source]
Exactly. They were simpler for the parent because he was a kid during the 90s.... or just oblivious.

“Oh pity us, we got it so bad and they didn’t!!!”

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56. gabagoo ◴[] No.25976322{3}[source]
very insightful. the secret is that everything just gets worse every decade
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57. craz8 ◴[] No.25976335{4}[source]
I don’t think it’s being oblivious.

It’s being removed enough to forget the painful parts, but being aware enough at the time of the good parts.

The painful parts decay faster than the good part memories, but schooling pain lasts forever! So the crossover seems to be in people’s early 20s

Being objective about your personal history is really hard - but it drives a lot of decisions today, so it’s good to at least revisit those “good times” to put them into the relevant context (too few people do this!)

58. techer ◴[] No.25976585{4}[source]
"In conclusion, there is no conclusion. Things will go on as they always have, getting weirder all the time" Robert Anton Wilson
59. rosstex ◴[] No.25976617[source]
If you do find the link, I want to know!
60. JohnJamesRambo ◴[] No.25976628{5}[source]
I'm not who you were asking but I thought I'd chime in since I am the OP. I know it is anecdotal, but I heard lots of white people behind closed doors talk about the LA riots and the OJ Simpson trial at the time and they were not offensive about it. That's what I mean by happier time. Bad things will happen in every decade, but how we respond to it and how we treat others defines how happy we will be. I'm hoping 2021 can be the year that empathy and unity starts making a comeback in America.
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61. KingFelix ◴[] No.25976792[source]
This is great
62. agumonkey ◴[] No.25976840[source]
Some times I want to set earth UTC to some year between 70-99 and wake up with news as if it was today.
63. melomal ◴[] No.25976872[source]
Do you not feel that the streaming options are up to scratch? There's so many now, from science doc specific (Nebula and Curiosity stream - I was eager to start with these but inevitably was let down with these 'speciality options') to anime too.

Personally, streaming has now also ruined watching the TV/movies for me.

Since my TV burned itself I've had a non-smart TV and it's actually really refreshing to have such minimal choice and be walled in as such. I end up watching films and actually enjoying them, not dealing with FOMO and wondering if there's something better).

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64. egeozcan ◴[] No.25976875{7}[source]
> The average IQ sample here is higher (period).

If you asked me, that'd be my guess as well, but saying it such a way that it projects hopelessness for the rest of the humanity is a bit too much :)

Narcissism is dangerous as it tends to create and feed extremist communities. For an example, see any political forum full with extremists (these days it's hard to find any without) and observe how often they call themselves intelligent (or woke, or whatever fancy words they use to work around the obviousness of self-flattery).

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65. onion2k ◴[] No.25976885[source]
I want an internet of specialty sites, browsable curations, diversity of offering, freedom of choice, and full of the quirky/unusual.

You can have that. All you need to do is make sure the developers who make those sites get rich. Find the sites and tell your friends about them. Subscribe to their work. Buy their merch. Click on the ads. Pay them. Then everyone else will see that sort of site making bank, and they'll follow along with similar things.

The only reason the web is what it is today is because the money went to the walled gardens and social media sites. To change that, change where the money goes.

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66. agumonkey ◴[] No.25976891[source]
I felt this on 80s french shows too. Its as if 1h back then was longer than 1h now. It's super odd. People were probably happier deeply because all of the new spaces to play on, without much structure and productivity. Things were to be invented. Whereas today, TV shows are long term businesses who have to hold market shar, ensure the same thing every day. No time for stepping aside, laugh or listen.

Probably a difference in human and emotional education. Times were slightly rougher in the 60-80s.. people may have had thicker skin and more social skills.

All in all it might just be a natural cycle of sclerosis, not help by the internet amplifier.

ps YouTube suggested some letterman shows with meg parsont (a random employee working in front of the studio building) I felt Dave was a bit intrusive if not bullish on her. Made me feel conflicted, as I hold the dude and show very high in mind.

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67. WaldoLydecker ◴[] No.25976921[source]
Why is it that access to unlimited content leads to most people watching the worst content ever made, so much so that other people forget that good content exists?
68. erickhill ◴[] No.25976925[source]
I know this says 90s, but when I see Max Headroom that's solidly 80s yo. Like, totally.
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69. JKCalhoun ◴[] No.25976941[source]
Yeah, I had forgotten how much music sucked then though. ;-)

I want an 80's television, 70's television....

EDIT: Oh, I see the links on the site now to a 70's and 80's channel. Awesome.

70. oscargrouch ◴[] No.25976994{8}[source]
I get what you are saying, but there are a couple of points that make this different..

First, of course is a subjective experience and therefore prone to error, but i came to this conclusion by observing this community over a long period of time.

Second, the communities you mention have mostly common ideological guidelines and goals, working like a cult or a religion. Therefore there's this feeling of belonging. HN is far away from that as people here have all sorts of different beliefs, background, etc. It's an heterogeneous community that will hardly agree on anything.

There's also no sense of belonging here, to a group, or a brand. etc..

There's no HNer, not a club, or have a card in the sorts of "Mensa" that you would proudly show to tell how smart you are.. as most of us are anonymous here.

So i don't think the patterns apply here. I think some people spend too much time on toxic social networks and suddenly start to see 33 all over even when the number is 21, because his neurons are seeing the same pattern too many times with these algorithms that are optimized to turn us all into neurotics.

71. jader201 ◴[] No.25977001{3}[source]
Not to go off on a tangent, but I’m not sure that’s entirely true.

To me, everything changed with the internet, and especially with smart phones + social media.

I was an adult for a period before all of this, and definitely still feel those were much “simpler times” vs. when all these things came about.

Information spreading literally at the speed of light has changed everything. And not all for the worse, but it’s definitely been a double-edged sword.

72. IndySun ◴[] No.25977213{3}[source]
"...To change that, change where the money goes..."

Creative work is currently having its sources of income decimated, from all sides. We should get used to reminiscing.

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73. IndySun ◴[] No.25977224{5}[source]
> The globalization movement that started in the 90's<

What was this?

74. kilroy123 ◴[] No.25977272[source]
Same here! Then in the late 90s it was Friends, Frasier, and Seinfeld.
75. lqet ◴[] No.25977455[source]
It's actually just changing the hash.
76. FearNotDaniel ◴[] No.25977503[source]
It's still REALLY EASY to make websites that look and feel exactly how you want, just like it was back then. Server space is dirt cheap. Anyone can register a domain, dirt cheap. HTML and CSS* still work without any JS whatsoever. And if you feel the need to use JS, it is absolutely not necessary to get sucked into the world of "modern" web development that suddenly requires 1000s of dependencies and a complex build process.

Be the change you want to see in the world. Get creative. Tell your friends.

* to be fair, CSS is possibly where the rot started to set in... some poorly thought-out design choices from 20 years ago are still haunting us. But stick to the basics and focus on the content instead, it still gets the job done.

77. lqet ◴[] No.25977532[source]
> what seems like such a simpler, happier time

I am regularly watching historic news footage (1950s and 1960s) from the archives of my local TV station. While the people are indeed friendlier than today (and much more eloquent), they don't seem happier. They don't seem less stressed. The general problems are the same. I watched a bit from 1961 about the growing problem of extreme weather events (they discussed whether the atomic bomb was responsible). Another bit from 1962 reported youth crime at an all time high and blamed alcohol, sex and movies. They showed 15 years old tricking themselves into student clubs in Heidelberg to consume alcohol and drugs. A few weeks ago, I watched a bit about the Hong Kong flu pandemic in 1969 (40.000 deaths in Germany alone) where they discussed countermeasures like quarantine and closing schools.

Also, a national TV station here shows "News from 20 years ago", where they just show the entire evening news from exactly 20 years ago. I have been watching this for years now, often while I am walking around the room. Just from the audio, it is often very hard to decide whether the news is from today or from the 90ies. The topics are often the same: politicians accusing each other of X, party Y announcing they now do X, violent conflicts in X, latest election polls, fear of war in Y.

When I watch these bits, I often think of these lines from the Joan Baez song "Hello in There" [0]:

  Me and Loretta, we don't talk much more
  She sits and stares through the back door screen
  All the news just repeats itself
  Like some forgotten dream that we've both seen
[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k41y5Pd5NU0
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80. chrisco255 ◴[] No.25977718{3}[source]
I wouldn't hold any celebs too high in mind. Dave is a funny comedian but who knows what he's like in his personal life? Lots of celebs are either assholes or terrible people. Rule of thumb: if you don't know them personally, never put them on a pedestal. Even then, don't do it.
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81. CTOSian ◴[] No.25977772[source]
def need some b/w filter, just for more "retro" feel
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82. chrisco255 ◴[] No.25977798{3}[source]
What date rape epidemic in the 90s was there that didn't exist in prior decades?

At any rate, it is broadly true that the 90s was a happier time than present.

Today, people can't let you enjoy reminiscing about a period in time without bringing up everything horrible or sub optimal about that time.

It's a pervasive cynicism that wasn't broadly shared then. I was a kid in the 90s exploring AOL chat rooms, forums, the web, etc. It was a very groovy time. Lots of discussions about politics, but it wasn't toxic like today. There are sharp lines today and if you are right of center you're either being deplatformed or shadow banned or called a neo-Nazi.

I mean, you mention gay rights. AOL, the most mainstream internet app had a prominent Gay & Lesbian section and a chat room for folks to meet or discuss commonalities. Nobody was canceling AOL over it. It was just another interest group next to Sports, Video Games, Politics, Religion, etc. You'd wind up meeting gay people through some discussions on the various chat rooms. And we'd honestly debate about whether homosexuality was a choice or not. And in my naivete I took one side of that issue and a gay boy that posted in that vg forum took the other side. It taught me how to understand them. Today, if someone says something outside of whatever the prevailing dogma is, they are treated like they're terrible people. Experiences like that are how you grow as a person. And we cut that off at the knees today trying to make sure no one's feelings are hurt. But all that does is create resentment and divide.

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83. chrisco255 ◴[] No.25977811{4}[source]
What part of the world in 1950s would you travel to that you think would be better?
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84. personlurking ◴[] No.25977953{3}[source]
I'm somewhat of an oddball in terms of content preferences. Sure, I have Netflix and use it, but during the past 20 years, over 50% of the tv/film content I watch is foreign (I'm American). I keep lists from my favorite countries and ask foreigners what I should be watching. What would surprise me is finding Netflix-like services that curate the best [insert genre].

So far, I've come across MhZ Choice (for EU shows, with subtitles), FlixOlé (for Spanishf films, no subtitles), Wlext (foreign tv shows...pirated). Also, I recommend using a VPN for Netflix to access different shows and films, depending on the country you choose. The other day I found myself watching a Chinese action film that only had Italian subtitles (luckily my Italian is up to scratch).

With music, my tastes are boarderless and timeless. At any moment, I'll put on 13th century Iberian cantigas, Latin motets, folkloric Sardinian, 90's French indie, 1970s Congolese rumba, modern Ivory Coast reggae, South African Xhosa pop, Indian mantras, Peruvian ethno-techno, and the list goes on.

But yes, the plethora of options is, at the same time, wonderful and dreadful. I tried to sit down and start reading a semi-dense physical book the other day and it's like my mind was too fried to focus due to having just got off the internet.

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85. dewey ◴[] No.25977955{4}[source]
> Creative work is currently having its sources of income decimated, from all sides. We should get used to reminiscing.

This is just anecdotal but I see a lot of very niche creative people making money that they wouldn't have made before through YouTube, Discord, Patreon, Gumroad etc.

I think the opposite is true, while in the past it was maybe PayPal there's a lot of ways to make money online that's very approachable for everyone.

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86. micheljansen ◴[] No.25977992[source]
Interesting that you mention that. I grew up with colour TV so I associate black and white with faux retro.
87. IndySun ◴[] No.25978014{5}[source]
The niche stuff is definitely happening. As are new ways to monetize; but online only. What is certainly being eroded that cannot be achieved online is live performance. Include in that phrase what you will. But those opportunities are currently almost zero internationally. What the long term effects of this are is hard to predict but human to human emotional contact is imperative to our survival.
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88. agumonkey ◴[] No.25978021{4}[source]
He did assholery, publicly known too. Other than that he seems averagely balanced as a human.
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89. personlurking ◴[] No.25978024{8}[source]
I think the user you're referring to is merely making an observation, not speaking out of malevolence nor arrogance. I was also lurking (my username checks out) for years before I made an account, and I've always felt that HN has one of the smartest groups of people on the web.
90. personlurking ◴[] No.25978048{3}[source]
I used to regularly dig through news archives from 100 yrs ago, and I found a lot of similarities with the news today. I totally get what you're saying.
91. iamoverworked ◴[] No.25978142{4}[source]
> it is broadly true that the 90s was a happier time than present.

I do have some great memories from the 90s, but for a few years I lived in a town south of Chicago that was heavy in gangs where I would regularly hear semi-automatic gun fire, see the river getting trolled for bodies and lived next to a professional bike thief. My father's truck was robbed of tools, my bike was stolen, my friends were poor as dirt and I couldn't play in their yards because I am white and they were afraid their neighbors would beat the shit out of me or kill me, and one of those friends was in a gang (learned that 15 years later). I remember lots of good things, but my 90s experience wasn't all that pleasant.

92. nefitty ◴[] No.25978158{3}[source]
I watched the documentary called 1968 on HBO. It made me wonder if people knew they were in the middle of one of the most impactful years in American history (MLK and RFK assassinated, sentiment shift regarding Vietnam, Nixon elected, etc). I then realized that 2020 would be viewed in time in a similar fashion. It was somewhat comforting knowing that we’ve pushed through tumult in the past, and that we’re still perfectly capable of doing so.

It’s so easy to lose the context of our place in history when there’s a constant stream of voices all pointing and screaming at the “now”.

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93. nobody9999 ◴[] No.25978245{5}[source]
>(BTW the matrix app being kicked out of peoples cell phones might be a sign of what will come)

Let's be precise here. The Element app was suspended from the Play Store (and restored in less than 24 hours) It was most certainly not removed from peoples' phones.

We have serious issues with the centralization of network services and we should scream loudly about it and look for ways to diminish the power that comes with that centralization.

However, making specious claims like that doesn't help. It just makes those who rail against the concentrated power of these big corporations seem deranged.

There are plenty of real issues to rail against without making shit up.

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94. Larrikin ◴[] No.25978409{5}[source]
If we're discussing relative activities would you rather have a finger cut off or a leg cut off?

The idea of time travel being a fun concept, especially in recent history has very real implications if you go anywhere in the world where you're a minority or not from a colonial power subjecting people to your will.

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95. ◴[] No.25978489{3}[source]
96. schwartzworld ◴[] No.25978503[source]
This is 100% the right way to handle routing in single-page apps. The back button should work the exact same way it does in a server side render app
97. derwiki ◴[] No.25978561[source]
Encino is, like, so bitchin!
98. amelius ◴[] No.25978564[source]
Lots of "this video is unavailable".

The Internet Archive should really start archiving youtube videos too.

(And youtube should have an api to detect whether the video is available or not)

99. PH01 ◴[] No.25978623[source]
Did the site have a video stream in the centre and a chat box below it? There were often streams of storms filmed from a beach front location?
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100. personlurking ◴[] No.25978673{3}[source]
Not that I recall, no. I only looked at it once, for maybe 20 minutes. It was more like a blog (ie, scroll bar, multiple entries).
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101. PH01 ◴[] No.25978710{4}[source]
Was a long shot. I'm also searching for an obscure site I was almost certainly linked to from here.
102. ghaff ◴[] No.25978738{3}[source]
Possibly an unpopular opinion but I'd argue that, in the main, the people creating interesting stuff as a sideline never got rich. Maybe it's a side effect of the startup and side-hustle mentality here but I'd argue that maybe discussions about these sorts of things emphasize monetization too much.
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103. Kye ◴[] No.25978751{5}[source]
It's still very hard to actually bridge the gap between putting something out there and getting people to pay for it. All those platforms did was expand the lucky few from .1% to 1% of people trying. A big jump, but few people make enough to cover the costs, much less live on it.
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104. parenthesis ◴[] No.25978864[source]
The teenagers and young adults in the 90s were for the first time too young to remember the woes of the 70s.

The cold war was over, but pre 9/11.

Coordinated global action can solve environmental problems (phasing out of CFCs). Turns out CO2 emissions not such an easy problem to solve.

Rave / House music culture based on euphoric togetherness rather than sex and violence.

The economically rising east asian nations giving the west ever more affordable consumer goods, but not yet threatening US domination of the world order (especially after the bubble in Japan burst).

The utopian promise of the `information super highway'.

105. karaokeyoga ◴[] No.25978899[source]
… but I kick myself for not having saved the URL …

Maybe https://neave.tv/?

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106. IndySun ◴[] No.25978921{6}[source]
Kye, Completely agree with this. Making it big as a creative remains elusive for but a few, and may actually be harder today due to your point (this plus the fact that powerful creative tools are in so many more people hands thus we have a glut/logjam of talent being overlooked).
107. ghaff ◴[] No.25978938{6}[source]
Arguably a lot of people buy into the buzz around becoming a Tik-Tok, YouTube, or whatever star when the reality is that it's about as likely for most as becoming a Hollywood star is.

Whatever the form, content by itself just doesn't pay a lot for most and never has. I just finished a new edition of a book of mine. It's valuable for "branding" (ugh term I know). But I'll directly make less money than from cranking out a blog post for some company.

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108. scollet ◴[] No.25979075{6}[source]
"Live" as in-the-moment or "Live" as being in the same vicinity/venue?

The former is still very much booming, and I don't see why the latter would go anywhere.

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110. Melting_Harps ◴[] No.25979159[source]
> What a fantastic website.

Wow... the first channel I landed was CBS from 1992 with coverage of the recession with the day labor for manual workers in Los Angeles with white guys next to Mexican laborers, and then as if that wasn't absurd enough the next segment for the 'Michelangelo virus' with John Mcaffee (the guy who I saw said he'd eat his dick if BTC didn't reach $1 million [0]) was pumping his anti-virus software in Santa Clara like it was the pre-cursor to Y2k or something. And then wrapped up with the breaking up of the Soviet Union's Red Army military disbanding to serve as local counterprts for now independent soviet satellite nations.

I'm not sure why I felt I was watching all of this like it it was the first time, even though I lived all of through this and saw a lot of it in TV first hand back then... it was incredibly surreal.

0 https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/john-mcafee-dick-bitcoin-bet...

111. tiborsaas ◴[] No.25979171[source]
In this age of "infinite" content curation is really important. Inspired by the 90's MTV experience I've built https://humanmusic.tv/ to replicate that but with indie music from the last 10 years.

I'm also running a web crawler to discover fresh music videos from various music blogs.

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112. jannes ◴[] No.25979224{5}[source]
All human men could be described like that. There are plenty of non-white dictators and war lords.
113. Melting_Harps ◴[] No.25979248{5}[source]
> He did assholery, publicly known too. Other than that he seems averagely balanced as a human.

Never followed Letterman's work as I never found him funny and it always felt like a used car salemen's type shtick, I was more likely to watch Jay Leno due to him being in LA and loving cars. Honestly Simpsons or Married with Children re-runs were more entertaining than both to me...

But, I watched that Comedy Store documentary from last year and heard from guys like Chris Rock in other interviews throughout the years that Letterman was generally known to be a total miserable grump when not on stage.

His persona and his real life demeanor were 180s of each other, which kind of makes sense the more you learn about how messed up psychologically and emotionally comedians often are and given how much time the spent on Freddy Prince's suicide, it really drove the point home that they are often just broken toys with a narrow focus on doing something to east their deep pain. And Letterman was from that era of comedians and was around the store back then.

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114. 1MachineElf ◴[] No.25979472[source]
Is the English-dubbed version of the original Japanese Iron Chef show on here? Would love to see some full episodes. That one has been hard to find.
115. api ◴[] No.25979508{3}[source]
I wonder if a curated directory like the original 90s Yahoo! could work and experience a renaissance today? I could see that being more useful than search, honestly. Search today is just polluted with SEO trash.
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116. ghaff ◴[] No.25979553{4}[source]
Define "work." A curated directory for some niche topic would definitely be of interest to people involved with that niche topic. And, depending on the topic, it might even serve as a decently profitable sideline for someone. But it certainly wouldn't be Yahoo! v. 2.
117. agumonkey ◴[] No.25979560{6}[source]
I like letterman dry snark. Leno felt too egocentric to me for a reason. I'ma find that video with Rock on DL.
118. onion2k ◴[] No.25979639{4}[source]
Maybe people who see moderate success turn it in to a full time job, and it stops being a side hustle.
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119. IndySun ◴[] No.25979749{7}[source]
""Live" as in-the-moment or "Live" as being in the same vicinity/venue?"

In the flesh live, people together experiencing something collectively.

"I don't see why the latter would go anywhere"

There's an ongoing pandemic and during it the vast majority of venues where people can experience performance or sport collectively are and remain closed. During this time the income normally generated has understandably ceased. Many places may remain permanently closed, including historical outdoor events.

I do eventually expect a move toward normality but it's going to take many years. In the meantime we can add online live & reminiscing in lieu of the 'real thing'.

120. IndySun ◴[] No.25979799{7}[source]
Ghaff, some good points too. And am I reading you right; you're saying you could (are) potentially earn more from writing a (paid) blog post than from your own book?
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121. ghaff ◴[] No.25979800{5}[source]
Sure. There are best selling authors who started out writing in the evenings. My point though is that it's a very small proportion of those who try who parlay music/fiction writing/video/etc. into even a median household income full-time job (say $50K/year in the US).
122. ghaff ◴[] No.25979856{8}[source]
Yes. Exactly.

There are a bunch of reputational benefits to certain types of book writing which (probably) lead to significant career/comp benefits. But the direct money can be less than what companies will pay for a ghostwritten content marketing-type blog. Or even whatever a lot of salaried people earn for doing that sort of work on company time. There's a reason a lot of "creatives" end up working for corporate product companies as their day job.

123. sogen ◴[] No.25979914[source]
maybe https://www.kickscondor.com ?
124. personlurking ◴[] No.25980096{3}[source]
That's a great site! Love it

But unfortunately, no. The one I remember wasn't TV-based. It was more like a normal blog but hosted on a university domain, iirc.

125. UncleSlacky ◴[] No.25980239{4}[source]
My mother (who spent most of that year pregnant with me) certainly felt that that year was probably the worst she'd experienced.
126. fwilliams ◴[] No.25980252[source]
It’s not the site you’re looking for, but I found https://poolside.fm recently and it’s become one of those quirky corners of the internet that I have come to enjoy. I definitely miss the days of discovering weird specialty sites, and poolside gave me a bit of that new site discovery rush (also the music is great).
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127. UncleSlacky ◴[] No.25980343[source]
The 70s version has a B/W button on the TV.
128. oscargrouch ◴[] No.25980372{6}[source]
So I'm glad this is not the case yet, but Apple specifically have been doing this more prominently than others and it starts with platform handicap (for instance make it almost impossible to create applications in other ways beyond their proprietary API aiming things like the Web).

FAANG's are feeling that the antitrust guillotine is near their heads, so things will be a little quiet for now, but once the dust have settled they will probably keep doing what they were doing before, unless of course a proper legal framework come to rescue.

But as the political class have more urgent matters to take care of, i think this legal sophistication we urgently need will not be a priority.

129. tiborsaas ◴[] No.25980781{4}[source]
Ironically, for SEO purposes, to generate backlinks, there are endless directory websites out there which look like what you just described.

To make it successful, some kind of authority should be present in the sauce.

130. CyberDildonics ◴[] No.25981313{6}[source]
I was asking the person I replied to.

What are you trying to say by mentioning that white people "were not offensive" about the oj simpson trial? That is not the same thing as a black person getting beat and mamed _on video_, then having the four people responsible get _acquitted_ of wrong doing.

> I'm hoping 2021 can be the year that empathy and unity starts making a comeback in America.

You might have to first realize why some people would feel there are massive systemic injustices. It might have felt simpler and happier when you didn't have to confront extreme imbalances of justice. If you want "empathy and unity" then be part of the solution.

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131. honkdaddy ◴[] No.25981823{3}[source]
Can you be more specific with what you're trying to imply with this question? Do you think that the Rodney King riots are evidence enough that what /u/JohnJamesRambo is observing is incorrect, that people weren't actually happier ~30 years ago?
132. npunt ◴[] No.25982251[source]
I got sucked into that one as well and then went to the internet archive to watch some others. It was called the Computer Bowl:

http://tcm.computerhistory.org/computerbowl.html

133. f430 ◴[] No.25982648{3}[source]
Not to mention liberal too with televised broadcasts like Le Narcisso Show
134. chrisco255 ◴[] No.25982820{6}[source]
An extremely small number of people were involved in those. And meanwhile, China was extinguishing anti-communist dissidents by the millions in the Mao revolution. India had its caste system in full effect. Africa was even poorer than it is today with many battles, regional strifes, etc. Cuba got taken over by communists, for example, many forced to flee to the U.S. afterwards. They didn't seem to worry about the "prevalent lynchings" as you characterize it, or exaggerate it beyond its relative scale in what was going on in the world at the time.
135. chrisco255 ◴[] No.25982977{6}[source]
Yes, even before colonial times, this sort of thing is ancient. Being a Frenchman in Britain 400 years ago you would find yourself in the disdainful company if not outright contempt of your peers. These countries fought 100 year war despite being extremely close from a racial perspective. And you had this same pattern play out all over the world. Indian tribes and nations warred with each other, slaughtered each other, sacrificed each other. Asians, Africans, Mediterranean empires, etc. There is no point in history you can go back to where these dynamics are not in play. It's the remarkable achievement of the past 100 or so years that we move relatively freely in most of the first world today without fear of violence or extreme bigotry. Tribalism is the rule of human history, not the exception. And U.S. was for better or worse a proving ground for how a multicultural and multiracial society could work. No doubt that came with sacrifices and tragedies, but I suspect without those, we'd not have had much change in the world.
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136. f430 ◴[] No.25983283{7}[source]
What about the Koreans who were the most impacted by the LA riots? It's sad that it doesn't even register on your radar yet you want to talk about systemic justice smh
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137. anthk ◴[] No.25983525{4}[source]
> The other day I found myself watching a Chinese action film that only had Italian subtitles

https://opensubtitles.org

138. anthk ◴[] No.25983538{4}[source]
Compared to having an actual dictatorship in Iberia (two), and later ETA/IRA/Far right bombings, the Gladio network, and then fucking wars in Jugoslavia, that's nothing.

I used to listen to car bombs near where I live.

139. anthk ◴[] No.25983554{6}[source]
Europe was majority white and even in the Fascist Spain if you declared yourself Catholic, pro Spain and such, no one would give a shit except for propaganda ("look, a remote blackie from Africa being happy in the regime, we are a success").

Gay people got screwed not matter the race, tho.

140. anthk ◴[] No.25983569{7}[source]
The US didn't end the tribalism, ever. Europe did, and even more because of the Nazis' antiexample.
141. CyberDildonics ◴[] No.25983842{8}[source]
This was about someone saying that the early 90s was a "simpler happier time" and I was pointing out that it wasn't that way for everyone.

The Rodney King verdict started the riots, I didn't say anything about anyone in the riots. Go back, read everything again and try to follow along this time so you don't hallucinate what people are saying.

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142. joshspankit ◴[] No.25984023{4}[source]
Personally I feel like there are a lot of important and opposing conversations about the interaction between authentic creativity and money.

One of the biggest reasons I’m a proponent of Universal Basic Income is that I want creative people to be able to create without having to fall prey to things like cutting out their medium in order to make sure they can eat and have a place to live.

However: we are currently within a capitalist society, and because of that we have to think of how we can financially enable the art and culture that we want to see more of.

This is a deeply interwoven and complex topic, but at the end of the day I just want to see interesting stuff and know that the people creating it are better because of it.

143. f430 ◴[] No.25984568{9}[source]
I'm alright thank you.
144. alisonkisk ◴[] No.25985548[source]
Nearly everybody is nostalgic for their youth.
145. GekkePrutser ◴[] No.25985611[source]
The same era also had Ricki Lake and Jerry Springer. Definitely not allowed where everyone was patient and loved each other. I think your vision of the 90s is too rosy :)
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146. cambalache ◴[] No.25985880[source]
Cool site, well done. Too bad all the crap added by youtube kills the immersion
147. DavideNL ◴[] No.25987092[source]
Great, would be cool if you could set the language too... :)
148. GekkePrutser ◴[] No.25987199{3}[source]
Sorry I meant 'definitely not shows', autocorrect went on the fritz lol.
149. jeegsy ◴[] No.25988135[source]
I really really miss stumbleupon. This site is pretty cool though...those 90s music videos were so....those were the times
150. honkdaddy ◴[] No.25988792{9}[source]
Are you going to reply to my above question?
151. zomg ◴[] No.25991261{3}[source]
i just downloaded the app. this is amazing, thank you for posting!
152. melomal ◴[] No.26011565{4}[source]
> The other day I found myself watching a Chinese action film that only had Italian subtitles

The good old days of going down a Youtube rabbit hole :)