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personlurking ◴[] No.25975086[source]
I realize this is a site about the past, but I really hope this is the future. I want an internet of specialty sites, browsable curations, diversity of offering, freedom of choice, and full of the quirky/unusual. It might have to do with growing up in the 90s and experiencing that kind of world wide web, w/o walled gardens.

Several years back, perhaps even via an HN post or comment, I came across a blog, hosted on a university network (IIRC, perhaps related to media studies). The page consisted of a group of possibly graduate students contributing some of the weirdest and most obscure media I've ever seen online. Nothing obscene and nothing seemingly new/current, so it was rather hipster in that sense, but I kick myself for not having saved the URL.

Nothing says I need to use walled gardens or get my news from the big networks, but I often feel I'm being pointed that way. In the end, I just want something different than what's usually being served up.

(It doesn't escape me that this 90's TV site is full of walled garden/big network type content of the time)

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onion2k ◴[] No.25976885[source]
I want an internet of specialty sites, browsable curations, diversity of offering, freedom of choice, and full of the quirky/unusual.

You can have that. All you need to do is make sure the developers who make those sites get rich. Find the sites and tell your friends about them. Subscribe to their work. Buy their merch. Click on the ads. Pay them. Then everyone else will see that sort of site making bank, and they'll follow along with similar things.

The only reason the web is what it is today is because the money went to the walled gardens and social media sites. To change that, change where the money goes.

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IndySun ◴[] No.25977213[source]
"...To change that, change where the money goes..."

Creative work is currently having its sources of income decimated, from all sides. We should get used to reminiscing.

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dewey ◴[] No.25977955[source]
> Creative work is currently having its sources of income decimated, from all sides. We should get used to reminiscing.

This is just anecdotal but I see a lot of very niche creative people making money that they wouldn't have made before through YouTube, Discord, Patreon, Gumroad etc.

I think the opposite is true, while in the past it was maybe PayPal there's a lot of ways to make money online that's very approachable for everyone.

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1. IndySun ◴[] No.25978014[source]
The niche stuff is definitely happening. As are new ways to monetize; but online only. What is certainly being eroded that cannot be achieved online is live performance. Include in that phrase what you will. But those opportunities are currently almost zero internationally. What the long term effects of this are is hard to predict but human to human emotional contact is imperative to our survival.
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2. scollet ◴[] No.25979075[source]
"Live" as in-the-moment or "Live" as being in the same vicinity/venue?

The former is still very much booming, and I don't see why the latter would go anywhere.

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3. IndySun ◴[] No.25979749[source]
""Live" as in-the-moment or "Live" as being in the same vicinity/venue?"

In the flesh live, people together experiencing something collectively.

"I don't see why the latter would go anywhere"

There's an ongoing pandemic and during it the vast majority of venues where people can experience performance or sport collectively are and remain closed. During this time the income normally generated has understandably ceased. Many places may remain permanently closed, including historical outdoor events.

I do eventually expect a move toward normality but it's going to take many years. In the meantime we can add online live & reminiscing in lieu of the 'real thing'.