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Apple's apps bypass firewalls like LittleSnitch and LuLu on macOS Big Sur

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1183 points robenkleene | 1 comments | 20 Oct 20 15:51 UTC | HN request time: 0.295s | source
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jjoonathan ◴[20 Oct 20 16:03 UTC] No.24838965[source]▶
"You don't need kernel extensions, we'll provide APIs for you! We won't abuse the power that gives us, promise!"

...and now Apple has altered the deal and we must pray they do not alter it further. Disgusting. Predictable, expected, unsurprising -- but still disgusting.

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nix23 ◴[20 Oct 20 16:19 UTC] No.24839174[source]▶
Dont pray, just dont buy Apple Products
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munificent ◴[20 Oct 20 16:27 UTC] No.24839301[source]▶
Boycotting is not an effective strategy for addressing oligopolies. You need actual strong anti-trust regulation.
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y7 ◴[20 Oct 20 16:34 UTC] No.24839399[source]▶
Hear hear. All "just use an alternative" does is temporarily shift the problem. And then tomorrow an article appears highlighting Windows 10's invasive telemetry and people say "yeah just use macOS".
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anamexis ◴[20 Oct 20 16:54 UTC] No.24839660[source]▶
I think in both cases, people generally say "use Linux".
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1. brimstedt ◴[20 Oct 20 19:51 UTC] No.24841679[source]▶
I have been using windows, apple and Linux (KDE) on a daily basis and handle all os' quite well.

KDE is by far my preference and in general I don't think neither windows nor macos has fewer problems despite the price tag.

After hearing the "it just works" mantra of apple users for many years I was surprised to find I had at least as many glitches on the Mac as I did on KDE (win 7 was better, 10 has more problems ime).

(I use my computers for development and sysadmin, not gaming or art)