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Apple's apps bypass firewalls like LittleSnitch and LuLu on macOS Big Sur

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1183 points robenkleene | 2 comments | 20 Oct 20 15:51 UTC | HN request time: 0.542s | source
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jjoonathan ◴[20 Oct 20 16:03 UTC] No.24838965[source]▶
"You don't need kernel extensions, we'll provide APIs for you! We won't abuse the power that gives us, promise!"

...and now Apple has altered the deal and we must pray they do not alter it further. Disgusting. Predictable, expected, unsurprising -- but still disgusting.

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nix23 ◴[20 Oct 20 16:19 UTC] No.24839174[source]▶
Dont pray, just dont buy Apple Products
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ineedasername ◴[20 Oct 20 16:40 UTC] No.24839473[source]▶
What's the alternative for the typical user? Windows has its own problems, and let's face it: market forces on this sort of thing or any other practices by the two of them have not driven people to use desktop Linux instead. For most people, there's simply no reasonable option to switch to that would avoid these things or employ market forces to get these companies to change their ways.
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1. _-david-_ ◴[20 Oct 20 17:16 UTC] No.24839941[source]▶
Depends on what the typical user does. I would guess a lot of people would be fine with a Chrome Book.
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2. ineedasername ◴[20 Oct 20 20:06 UTC] No.24841827[source]▶
The barrier isn't usability or functionality for most use cases. The barrier is getting it on the computer and supporting it. We don't have the retail & support infrastructure in place for it to be a practical option. If a non-technical person has Linux on their computer, it's probably because some technical relative put it there, and has made themselves the support person for it as well. You can't walk into a Best Buy and walk out with an Ubuntu laptop. The is an effort & technical knowledge barrier to it, and that's what I mean when I say it's not currently a practical option for a typical user.