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andreasley ◴[] No.24148645[source]
Epic Games has filed a lawsuit [1] and published a Fortnite-themed parody of Apple's "1984" [2] to get some publicity for it.

[1] https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/apple-complaint-734589783.pdf

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euiSHuaw6Q4

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ulfw ◴[] No.24152926[source]
A PR stunt from Epic and everyone's falling for it.
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0xy ◴[] No.24153018[source]
A PR stunt that consumers and small businesses could benefit from. 30% decimates indie studios and makes some apps fiscally nonviable.
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1. yvdriess ◴[] No.24155702[source]
Regarding the 30% cut.

It's the large scale clients that are hurt the most by the 30% cut. Old timer indie devs who used to have to manage payment and distribution themselves, like Jeff Vogel, will tell you that Steam's cut is absolutely fair given the value it brings. On PC there are different platforms competing for Steam, which might be a reason why Valve introduced discount tiers for more successful titles. If an outcome of the PR stunt is that Apple decreases its cut, it will likely be a similar arrangement which does not benefit the small businesses.

The issue with the App Store is not the cut, but that it is the only gate to the iOS walled garden.

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2. bananaface ◴[] No.24156117[source]
I don't think Steam's cut is fair. Epic's cut is 12% and provide the damn game engine.
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3. whywhywhywhy ◴[] No.24156550[source]
With Steam you're welcome to sell on steam and get the benefits with the cut and also sell on your own website.

It's not the same.

4. yvdriess ◴[] No.24163051[source]
Steam provides loads of functionality and APIs to developers that is simply not on Epic's storefront: the best controller API out there, networking/server API infrastructure, achievements, friends-list, group chat/voice, a storefront to help people find games, an extensive patching and versioning system, everything is cross-platform and most windows games automatically work on windows thanks to Proton.

It's good that Steam has competition! And I wish Epic's was competing on features, but at the moment their platform only competes by having a lower cut and payed exclusives only. The only benefit to users has been that Epic funded certain games that would otherwise might not have happened.

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5. bananaface ◴[] No.24163835{3}[source]
I don't buy that, because most developers would roll each of those features on their own if it meant they could reduce the cut.

I get what you're saying, but I think companies monopolising eyeballs then charging you an entry fee is... Kinda bull. Skimming is fine, but I want their margins to be tiny.