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mokus ◴[] No.23283932[source]
I guess the list of things keeping me off catalina (and, by extension, new Mac hardware) just got one item longer.

I recently bought a new System76 laptop as a stopgap, but it might end up becoming permanent. Kind of a sad end for 25+ years of Mac use.

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digitaltrees ◴[] No.23285038[source]
What are the other problems with Catalina for you? I ask because every time there is an OS X update someone posts this exact sentiment but then over a few months the issues get resolved. Please don’t interpret this as an attack; I am genuinely curious and want to see if Apple ends up fixing things.

I my self have a maxed out 16 MacBook Pro and a for the first few weeks after the upgrade it was literally in usable because routine user input would result in the entire system locking up. I suspect it was actually this issue but, thankfully, the issue is now resolved.

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lisper ◴[] No.23285494[source]
Not a Catalina issue per se, but the big problem with Apple nowadays is:

1. Upgrades are not optional. The system will relentlessly nag me until I upgrade even if I don't want to upgrade.

2. Upgrades are crap shoots. An Apple upgrade nowadays is as likely to break things as it is to fix things.

3. Upgrades are difficult and sometimes impossible to revert. If an upgrade breaks something, I'm just screwed.

So I'm still running Mavericks. It works. It's reliable. It does everything I need it to do. And I can count on that still being the case tomorrow. If I upgrade, all bets are off.

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LeoPanthera ◴[] No.23285721[source]
Although I sympathize, this is one issue, not three. And hardly anything unique to Apple.
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lisper ◴[] No.23285766[source]
It seems pretty unique to Apple in my experience. I have an ancient Android tablet. I don't even know how old the OS is on it. It never nags me to upgrade. My Linux boxes never nag me to upgrade. When I do upgrade, things mostly keep working, and if they don't it's pretty easy to roll things back.
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LeoPanthera ◴[] No.23285786{3}[source]
Android never getting updates is not a feature!
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1. lisper ◴[] No.23286754{4}[source]
I much prefer no updates over broken updates, especially when they are forced on me. Stable bugs are better than a never ending stream of new ones.