An independent activist journalist has been digging into the case and has come up with some interesting and alarming connections and history. Worth a read: https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2019/07/08/the-jeffrey-epstein...
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Is there any doubt at this point? It was Mossad. It couldn't have been an American agency, the fallout would be too great.
Edit: This has been suspected as early as 1992. This is not pizzagate/qanon bullshit. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ch7bnm/the_myst...
- MI6 had to have known of Price Andrew's association with Epstein. There's no way the Royal Family isn't on their grid.
- CIA & SS had to have known of Clinton's association with Epstein. Again, no way former Presidents are not under a tight CI net. No way.
- It was reported an expired Saudi passport was found in Epstein's safe; and it was also reported/speculated that Ehud Barak was caught in Epstein's web.
- After the 1987 Pollard affair Israel and the US came to an understanding Israel would not operate in the US. At risk was/is more than $3b in aid to Israel, access to US intel and a seat under the US security umbrella.
- Epstein appeared to be trafficking Russian women. No way this wasn't noticed by FSB.
"Best" case Epstein was operating independently for a time, blackmailing private businesspeople. "Worst" case he was operating on behalf of a foreign power (Saudi? Russia?). However, ultimately the US IC had to involve itself (see above) and it could be he was being run by several competing interests at once.
Highly unlikely anyone will ever know what really happened. Trial is about a year away. One wonders if he will still be alive.
Where is this coming from?
Also, why would blackmailing need someone to bankroll it? Blackmail makes money. It bankrolls itself.
> Is there any doubt at this point? It was Mossad.
- "The sordid Epstein saga is a sex scandal, a human trafficking scandal, a financial scandal -- and now an espionage scandal too. But whose?" John Schindler https://twitter.com/20committee/status/1149069968237039617 Schindler draws oblique links to Mossad.
- Alex Acosta, quoted as, "I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone,” he told his interviewers" - Vicky Ward, reporter whose profile of Epstein in 2002 in Vanity Fair had its editors kill mention of sexual accusations.
- Epstein had a fake foreign passport with his face but not his name. https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-saudi-austri...
John Schindler is a good source for intelligence-related matters. He formerly worked for the Navy and the NSA but he has been unafraid to comment on or criticize the US government. He's actually a hard-core conservative, though he criticizes both parties; still he's worth reading for his insight. He often writes for the NY Observer but has been editorially independent from its ownership. And Vicky Ward has been following Epstein for years.
At this point, it is certain that Epstein is not related to the US intelligence agencies. It seems highly likely that he was doing intelligence work linked to Mossad in some way. We may find out, at some point.
It was an Austrian passport [1]. (Presumably fake.)
[1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-jeffrey-epstein/fi...
I think it's almost certain that Epstein was not connected to US intelligence. Much of what you say above (Clinton/MI6) argues for that.
The U.S. Intelligence Community is lenient about the private habits of high-value agents or informants, but they won’t countenance running sex trafficking rings for minors on American soil, for years. While it’s plausible that Epstein was sharing some information with the FBI—many criminals do so to buy themselves some insurance—it’s implausible that he was mainly working for the Americans.
This is true.
Also, this is a good sum-up
Who are the suspects then? It seems awfully coincidental that Epstein’s best pal and business partner for decades has been Ghislaine Maxwell, the British socialite and daughter of the late Robert Maxwell, the media mogul who died under mysterious circumstances in 1991. Something of a Bond villain turned real life, Maxwell loved the limelight, despite being a swindler and a spy. British counterintelligence assessed that Maxwell was working for the KGB, while pervasive allegations that he was working for Mossad too are equally plausible.
Since the _lines between Russian intelligence, Israeli intelligence and organized crime can get remarkably blurry in practice_, as I’ve explained previously, assessing whom Epstein’s been working for may prove difficult to answer with any precision. But we have a suspect list to start asking questions.
What’s not in doubt is that a sex trafficking ring centered on minors, which involved numerous global VIPs in compromising situations, would be of high interest to quite a few intelligence services. The Epstein saga seems certain to get even more unpleasant and interesting.
I think this is right: >"Best" case Epstein was operating independently for a time, blackmailing private businesspeople. "Worst" case he was operating on behalf of a foreign power (Saudi? Russia?). However, ultimately the US IC had to involve itself (see above) and it could be he was being run by several competing interests at once.
Key question, though, is why US intel and MI6 didn't get Clinton and Prince Andrew right the hell out of there.
> One outrageous story links him to the CIA and Mossad. Another that Epstein was a concert pianist. Yet another that he was a maths teacher at an exclusive girls school.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/ch6g3r/the_mystery...
Two of those three are known publicly to be true.
I agree, no one really knows what is behind all this, but saying "zero chance Mossad" seems disingenuous.
[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#Mossad_allegati...
It doesn't help that for the same reason, I wouldn't particularly trust any press figure either. We have pretty good reason to believe the CIA has been involved with the press, and it's crazy to think other agencies would never have had the idea to get involved with the press. Is someone connecting person X to organization Y even telling the truth as they see it, let alone the question of whether they even have access to the truth. The odds of a given press figure A: having access to the truth B: deciding to tell you the truth and C: staying unmolested by these organizations even as they tell the truth about them over time strike me as effectively zero.
If one needs to shove Mossad into the storyline, yes. But it's unnecessary. Epstein getting wealthy by blackmailing Maxwell and using that wealth (and power over his blackmailing victims) to get wealthier, bully witnesses and lobby powerful people is plausible by itself.
If he just wanted to get his own rocks off, why bring in these guys? Prince Andrew, Clinton? It'd be safer to ensnare middling business leaders no one has ever heard of if he just wanted money. But such people are no use to state intelligence.
We have no evidence any of Prince Andrew or Clinton did anything nefarious in the midst of Epstein. Epstein was just doing what rich Americans do--cohorting with his fellow powerful.
what about the dreaded possibility that our intelligence agencies are somehow fighting domestic wars for/against specific political interests? In that case, whatever agency "owned him" would want him to ensnare as many powerful people as possible.