Epstein Arrest Leaves Top Technology Figures Racing to Distance Themselves

Zero chance Mossad. Zero.

- MI6 had to have known of Price Andrew's association with Epstein. There's no way the Royal Family isn't on their grid.

- CIA & SS had to have known of Clinton's association with Epstein. Again, no way former Presidents are not under a tight CI net. No way.

- It was reported an expired Saudi passport was found in Epstein's safe; and it was also reported/speculated that Ehud Barak was caught in Epstein's web.

- After the 1987 Pollard affair Israel and the US came to an understanding Israel would not operate in the US. At risk was/is more than $3b in aid to Israel, access to US intel and a seat under the US security umbrella.

- Epstein appeared to be trafficking Russian women. No way this wasn't noticed by FSB.

"Best" case Epstein was operating independently for a time, blackmailing private businesspeople. "Worst" case he was operating on behalf of a foreign power (Saudi? Russia?). However, ultimately the US IC had to involve itself (see above) and it could be he was being run by several competing interests at once.

Highly unlikely anyone will ever know what really happened. Trial is about a year away. One wonders if he will still be alive.

Glad to know you're so well informed about about both the details and incentives of the various worldwide spy agencies.

> It was reported an expired Saudi passport was found in Epstein's safe;

That's not exactly true. It was reported the passport listed a residence in SA, but the country that issued the passport was undisclosed.

> the country that issued the passport was undisclosed

It was an Austrian passport [1]. (Presumably fake.)

[1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-jeffrey-epstein/fi...

Re: Mossad -- See below (a few sources listed, John Schindler is a good journalist on intel topics.)

I think it's almost certain that Epstein was not connected to US intelligence. Much of what you say above (Clinton/MI6) argues for that.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is lenient about the private habits of high-value agents or informants, but they won’t countenance running sex trafficking rings for minors on American soil, for years. While it’s plausible that Epstein was sharing some information with the FBI—many criminals do so to buy themselves some insurance—it’s implausible that he was mainly working for the Americans.

This is true.

Also, this is a good sum-up

Who are the suspects then? It seems awfully coincidental that Epstein’s best pal and business partner for decades has been Ghislaine Maxwell, the British socialite and daughter of the late Robert Maxwell, the media mogul who died under mysterious circumstances in 1991. Something of a Bond villain turned real life, Maxwell loved the limelight, despite being a swindler and a spy. British counterintelligence assessed that Maxwell was working for the KGB, while pervasive allegations that he was working for Mossad too are equally plausible.

Since the _lines between Russian intelligence, Israeli intelligence and organized crime can get remarkably blurry in practice_, as I’ve explained previously, assessing whom Epstein’s been working for may prove difficult to answer with any precision. But we have a suspect list to start asking questions.

What’s not in doubt is that a sex trafficking ring centered on minors, which involved numerous global VIPs in compromising situations, would be of high interest to quite a few intelligence services. The Epstein saga seems certain to get even more unpleasant and interesting.

You realize every aspect of your reasoning for "Not Mossad" except the Pollard affair also applies to any other foreign intelligence service? Operating independently doesn't explain how he got his initial connections to Wexner, Barr, or Maxwell; let alone his money. And as it happens, at least 2 of the people on that list are Israel-adjacent. Seems like simple deduction to me. If he's foreign it's Mossad, if he's not foreign then hoo boy.

One more thing.

I think this is right: >"Best" case Epstein was operating independently for a time, blackmailing private businesspeople. "Worst" case he was operating on behalf of a foreign power (Saudi? Russia?). However, ultimately the US IC had to involve itself (see above) and it could be he was being run by several competing interests at once.

Key question, though, is why US intel and MI6 didn't get Clinton and Prince Andrew right the hell out of there.

How is it zero chance Mossad? Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's "girl friend" and the woman supplying him with underage girls was the daughter of Robert Maxwell, allegedly a Mossad agent[0].

I agree, no one really knows what is behind all this, but saying "zero chance Mossad" seems disingenuous.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#Mossad_allegati...

He reportedly met Wexner via his association with Bear Stearns. He can't be blackmailing Wexner AND be a Mossad agent simultaneously. Why? Because Wexner is among the most prolific donors to Israel/Jewish causes and here again, the risk to Israel of eating its own is simply too great. Its not the simple or logical explanation. Proximity != relationship.

Answered above, but here's another reason: The stupidity of entrapping Dershowitz, Barak, Wexner, Maxwell - 3 of whom are/were major players in pro-Israel organizations is indescribable. Stupid is not an adjective ever used to describe Mossad.

No one said he was blackmailing Wexner.

Have a look at the financial relationship between the two and tell me if it doesn't look like blackmail. Wexner gave Epstein assets & control over assets beyond reason. General thinking is blackmail or something else very odd.