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binarymax ◴[] No.20575710[source]
An independent activist journalist has been digging into the case and has come up with some interesting and alarming connections and history. Worth a read: https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2019/07/08/the-jeffrey-epstein...
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starpilot ◴[] No.20576035[source]
> It seems like the whole Epstein thing was an elaborate professional blackmail operation intended to ensnare the rich and powerful. But who was really behind it, who was really bankrolling Epstein?

Is there any doubt at this point? It was Mossad. It couldn't have been an American agency, the fallout would be too great.

Edit: This has been suspected as early as 1992. This is not pizzagate/qanon bullshit. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ch7bnm/the_myst...

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rrggrr ◴[] No.20576187[source]
Zero chance Mossad. Zero.

- MI6 had to have known of Price Andrew's association with Epstein. There's no way the Royal Family isn't on their grid.

- CIA & SS had to have known of Clinton's association with Epstein. Again, no way former Presidents are not under a tight CI net. No way.

- It was reported an expired Saudi passport was found in Epstein's safe; and it was also reported/speculated that Ehud Barak was caught in Epstein's web.

- After the 1987 Pollard affair Israel and the US came to an understanding Israel would not operate in the US. At risk was/is more than $3b in aid to Israel, access to US intel and a seat under the US security umbrella.

- Epstein appeared to be trafficking Russian women. No way this wasn't noticed by FSB.

"Best" case Epstein was operating independently for a time, blackmailing private businesspeople. "Worst" case he was operating on behalf of a foreign power (Saudi? Russia?). However, ultimately the US IC had to involve itself (see above) and it could be he was being run by several competing interests at once.

Highly unlikely anyone will ever know what really happened. Trial is about a year away. One wonders if he will still be alive.

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CaoCao ◴[] No.20576509[source]
You realize every aspect of your reasoning for "Not Mossad" except the Pollard affair also applies to any other foreign intelligence service? Operating independently doesn't explain how he got his initial connections to Wexner, Barr, or Maxwell; let alone his money. And as it happens, at least 2 of the people on that list are Israel-adjacent. Seems like simple deduction to me. If he's foreign it's Mossad, if he's not foreign then hoo boy.
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rrggrr ◴[] No.20577686[source]
He reportedly met Wexner via his association with Bear Stearns. He can't be blackmailing Wexner AND be a Mossad agent simultaneously. Why? Because Wexner is among the most prolific donors to Israel/Jewish causes and here again, the risk to Israel of eating its own is simply too great. Its not the simple or logical explanation. Proximity != relationship.
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CaoCao ◴[] No.20578096[source]
No one said he was blackmailing Wexner.
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1. rrggrr ◴[] No.20578179[source]
Have a look at the financial relationship between the two and tell me if it doesn't look like blackmail. Wexner gave Epstein assets & control over assets beyond reason. General thinking is blackmail or something else very odd.