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binarymax ◴[] No.20575710[source]
An independent activist journalist has been digging into the case and has come up with some interesting and alarming connections and history. Worth a read: https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2019/07/08/the-jeffrey-epstein...
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starpilot ◴[] No.20576035[source]
> It seems like the whole Epstein thing was an elaborate professional blackmail operation intended to ensnare the rich and powerful. But who was really behind it, who was really bankrolling Epstein?

Is there any doubt at this point? It was Mossad. It couldn't have been an American agency, the fallout would be too great.

Edit: This has been suspected as early as 1992. This is not pizzagate/qanon bullshit. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ch7bnm/the_myst...

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20committee_ta ◴[] No.20576367[source]
There are a few pieces of supporting evidence that Epstein was involved in an intelligence operation. It seems likely he was related to Mossad in some way. Let me list the solid news sources first and then give some background on sources.

> Is there any doubt at this point? It was Mossad.

- "The sordid Epstein saga is a sex scandal, a human trafficking scandal, a financial scandal -- and now an espionage scandal too. But whose?" John Schindler https://twitter.com/20committee/status/1149069968237039617 Schindler draws oblique links to Mossad.

- Alex Acosta, quoted as, "I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone,” he told his interviewers" - Vicky Ward, reporter whose profile of Epstein in 2002 in Vanity Fair had its editors kill mention of sexual accusations.

- Epstein had a fake foreign passport with his face but not his name. https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-saudi-austri...

John Schindler is a good source for intelligence-related matters. He formerly worked for the Navy and the NSA but he has been unafraid to comment on or criticize the US government. He's actually a hard-core conservative, though he criticizes both parties; still he's worth reading for his insight. He often writes for the NY Observer but has been editorially independent from its ownership. And Vicky Ward has been following Epstein for years.

At this point, it is certain that Epstein is not related to the US intelligence agencies. It seems highly likely that he was doing intelligence work linked to Mossad in some way. We may find out, at some point.

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1. jerf ◴[] No.20576854[source]
Having looked at this stuff every so often for a while, my conclusion is, you don't know, I don't know, possibly even the people involved don't even know. I think people underestimate the difficulty of working this stuff out in an environment where people are deliberately and systematically trying to fool everyone else about the provenance of actions and such, because we are not used to that environment at all.

It doesn't help that for the same reason, I wouldn't particularly trust any press figure either. We have pretty good reason to believe the CIA has been involved with the press, and it's crazy to think other agencies would never have had the idea to get involved with the press. Is someone connecting person X to organization Y even telling the truth as they see it, let alone the question of whether they even have access to the truth. The odds of a given press figure A: having access to the truth B: deciding to tell you the truth and C: staying unmolested by these organizations even as they tell the truth about them over time strike me as effectively zero.