Yes Wayland doesn't have a printer protocol like Xorg, I know.
The stuff that doesn't work typically don't work because kernel level anticheats, so a few competitive titles but even in that space many titles still run.
> Top 10 - 20% Platinum - 30% Gold - 10% Silver - 30% Bronze - 10% Borked
I'd probably say at least Gold is "reliably click and play without fiddling", so probably we're around 20-50% there right now, if we consider the top 10 games on Steam. Once you start considering top 100 or top 1000, it starts to look a lot better. But still, mainstream games are lagging seemingly.
I think there are still some common anti cheats that don’t work. But single player has been flawless for me.
Anti-cheats won't work, I keep a Windows drive just for Battlefield 6.
Very few games don't work anymore, and most that don't are using kernel level anti-cheat or are generally hostile to users anyways (Fortnite and Destiny 2 could work, but they actively block Linux).
I main Fedora with an Nvidia 3080 and haven't had issues for quite some time now.
I unfortunately still see a lot of Proton bug reports that don’t repro on AMD cards. Hoping that improves soon, I’m sure Valve would love to tell hardware makers that Nvidia GPUs are supported.
For most distributions you can simply install the (proprietary) nvidia drivers and you're good to go.
There is generally no tweaking or command line changes necessary for Nvidia to work on Wayland, including multi-monitors with different resolutions and refresh rates.
I run CachyOS and have been having a nightmare of a time on Wayland with my 3D Printer slicer and other tools I use my computer for being unusable.
The only thing that has ever kept me on Nvidia all these years is that they have been killing AMD performance wise for gaming.
The 9070XT is easily performant enough for the gaming I'm doing at the moment, and I can finally ditch the last major headache I've had in two and a half decades of being a Linux user - NVIDIA drivers - good riddance.
I don't play online games other than Helldivers 2 (so anti-cheat is a non-issue) which is working just fine at 70-80FPS max settings in 4K. Also getting good performance with RT off playing Ghostwire in 4K with settings as high as I can get them while staying above 60 FPS with Freesync.
EDIT: 9070XT seems to have a bit of headroom too I got the Asus PRIME OC version; Using LACT I upped the power limit from the stock 317W to 340W and undervolted by -100mv (YMMV on this value) and can get a decent chunk of extra performance out of it.
There are Linux distributions that are better than Windows or iOS for grandma to use as well as distributions where you need to be an expert to do anything.
Of course, this is only one example of probably hundreds where an average user would have no clue how to fix their broken computer.
I am excluding games that rely on a kernelmode anticheat.
So the people on Hackernews with adblock aren't reading this.
Unlike Windows, right? Right? Guys?
This is an incomplete list of protocols that aren't part of core Wayland. Compositors implement additional protocols that aren't even part of this process (e.g. wlr-screencopy-unstable). See the wlroota protocols here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wlroots/wlroots/-/tree/master...
What I don't get is if these are proscribed steps (and they do read as such) why are they not automated with the module install? Why are we still fighting these issues if the 'workaround' is linear and well described? Is it as flimsy a reason as "write-an-article, collect-advertising-revenue" rather than contribute code to the installer?
You need to compare apples to apples, aka pre-installed vendor supported operating systems. If you're comparing installing an unsupported OS on unsupported hardware, Linux is far superior. Try installing MacOS on a Windows computer or Windows on a Mac if you're truly masochistic.
I'm trying to recall how NVidia behaved for games, but my daily driver is an old 1050 Ti that's been rock solid for years now, also X11.
Maybe the problem is Wayland not NVidia?
Just because a protocol isn't part of Wayland, doesn't mean a standard protocol does not exists.
Reader mode also available but not even needed.
Also wevare talking here about archlinux + hyperland compositor, not the typical Fedora, Mint or Ubunti/Zorin distro. Tinkerer's gonna tinker while the other users just use their computer regardless of the OS.
Buy hardware that supports Linux and you won't have to think about it.
At this point hardware incompatibility is a self-imposed problem.
Since I don't play any more games than Minecraft and don't really need a fancy gpu I have switched to intel. Now I have two things which I buy intel only. GPUs and WiFi. I have had one glitch with opengl under a VM, but I am not sure that is intel only since it also had issues with my Nvidia card.
On the other hand when I tried a 6xx0 XT I always ran into an infamous "ring gfx timeout" GPU crash with certain applications on WINE [0]. Ended up giving that card to a cousin.
[0] Examples: https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/rant-ring-gfx-0-0-0-timeout-... https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/amdgpu-ring-gfx-0-0-0-timeou...
I recommend everyone not update those drivers unless they're not working, and don't be afraid to downgrade. Almost every version has people saying on their system something doesn't work.
Dunno anything about dozens of packages, I installed 1 (one) package from my distro and haven't touched it since, no issues with updates either. That same friend with an AMD card keeps getting random hard PC freezes during gaming though.
Also absolutely zero issues with lags/latency for me (on GNOME. I did experience a bunch of weird bugs with KDE, but again - no lags)
One thing that is very real is DirectX 12 performance. This one really does suffer due to poor nvidia drivers. Hope they iron it out at some point
> very specific to Arch
But Systemd? That's on most distros these days. I'm pretty sure it is on all of those in the top 10.
Also, the OP is using CachyOS. You can tell b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶o̶p̶e̶n̶ ̶f̶i̶l̶e̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶n̶a̶n̶o̶ from the neofetch logo. But, I'll mention that if you checkout distrowatch, Arch based distros are incredibly common. Over the past 12 months the most downloaded distros are CachyOS (Arch), Mint (Deb/Ubuntu), MX (Deb), Debian, Endeavour (Arch), Pop (Ubuntu), Manjaro (Arch), Ubuntu, Fedora, Zorin (Deb/Ubuntu).
That said, you don't have to do any of this for either Endeavour (which I use) nor Manjaro (my old distro of choice). Along with Pop, one of the main motivations for these distros is Nvidia support. Really I don't expect most people to even be facing those problems these days. On Endeavour I've only run into one Nvidia problem over the last 5 years and it was when a beta driver conflicted with the most recent kernel. Super easy fix once I realized the problem.
On a side note/friendly reminder:
anyone that's using linux these days with an Nvidia card I suggest making sure your /efi partition is >1GB (at least 2GB but give it some headroom. Disk is still cheap). If you're putting the drivers in the kernel (you should), like done here, those are going to take up a lot of space. (If you get a space error, run `sudo du -ch --max-depth=3 /efi | sort -hr` to see the problem. You can, usually, safely delete any of the `initrd-fallback` versions and rerun `sudo reinstall-kernels`. They'll be built again but this will usually give you the headroom you need)
> completely effed on most distributions
Dozen of packages, official packages, you need bunch of, like, 590.44.01-1 packages installed: https://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/deb...
Lags: sorry, I have no more nvidia and can't record video.
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> official packages
Which is unfortunately not a good thing when it comes to NVIDIA. "Modern" distros package those for you, which is why I install linux-cachyos-nvidia-open [0] now and previously nvidia-driver-${version} [1] when I was using Pop! OS, both of which worked without a single issue for me from the word "go". My point is: it's not all doom and gloom, there's life to be had and it's not that worse than AMD cards.
[0] https://packages.cachyos.org/package/cachyos/x86_64/linux-ca...
And a lot of places have ads that are okay. I mean I still dislike them, but they don't block half the page as in this instance. And when I see that I won't even bother to open it in Firefox.
> But I just want a Linux distro that works.
But I think Pop is the best distro for this. System76 is highly incentivized to do exactly this and specifically with nvidia drivers and laptops (laptops create extra complications...). I can't promise it'll be a cure-all but it is worth giving a shot. I would try their forums too.
I totally get the frustration. I've been there, unfortunately. I hope you can get someone to help.