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rmrfchik ◴[08 Dec 25 15:58 UTC] No.46193809[source]▶
nvidia on linux [for desktop] is utterly broken. I ran nvidia cards for almost 15 years (shame on me): laggy X11 compositing, fragile and broken wayland. Broken suspend/resume. Too many moving parts (selected drivers, modprobe quirks, suspend/resume scripts). Moved to amd: slick x11, reliable wayland, NO MORE DRIVERS AT ALL, works like charm. And yes, I do playing in Linux.
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graynk ◴[09 Dec 25 15:28 UTC] No.46205954[source]▶
Suspend/resume is broken in general (and everywhere besides Mac), including AMD on Linux.

No more drivers is just..false?

The rest was true up to roughly 3 years ago. Now I'm a happy camper

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rmrfchik ◴[09 Dec 25 16:58 UTC] No.46207315[source]▶
Suspend/resume was broken in nvidia since release on aug 2024. I have internal bug id for it. And dozen links with suspend scripts. No more drivers I mean I don't need to install dozens of packages. While it not big deal by itself, but reverting broken driver is huge deal. Laggy desktop -- this is my experience until nov 2025 when I dumped nvidia. Desktop on both intel and amd feels like magic after nvidia.
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1. graynk ◴[09 Dec 25 23:00 UTC] No.46211919[source]▶
Suspend/resume is broken for my friend with an AMD card right now. That's what I mean: it's broken everywhere in slightly different ways, yes even on Windows. Thankfully I never use it anyway.

Dunno anything about dozens of packages, I installed 1 (one) package from my distro and haven't touched it since, no issues with updates either. That same friend with an AMD card keeps getting random hard PC freezes during gaming though.

Also absolutely zero issues with lags/latency for me (on GNOME. I did experience a bunch of weird bugs with KDE, but again - no lags)

One thing that is very real is DirectX 12 performance. This one really does suffer due to poor nvidia drivers. Hope they iron it out at some point

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2. rmrfchik ◴[10 Dec 25 07:32 UTC] No.46215124[source]▶
Suspend/Resume simply nvidia bug: https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/cant-resume-from-suspe...

Dozen of packages, official packages, you need bunch of, like, 590.44.01-1 packages installed: https://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/deb...

Lags: sorry, I have no more nvidia and can't record video.

(edit: formatting)

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3. graynk ◴[10 Dec 25 09:38 UTC] No.46215838[source]▶
And there are simply AMD bugs in the same vein, yes: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/?sort=create.... Again, I'm not saying it's not broken on NVIDIA, I'm saying it's just broken, period.

> official packages

Which is unfortunately not a good thing when it comes to NVIDIA. "Modern" distros package those for you, which is why I install linux-cachyos-nvidia-open [0] now and previously nvidia-driver-${version} [1] when I was using Pop! OS, both of which worked without a single issue for me from the word "go". My point is: it's not all doom and gloom, there's life to be had and it's not that worse than AMD cards.

[0] https://packages.cachyos.org/package/cachyos/x86_64/linux-ca...

[1] https://github.com/pop-os/nvidia-graphics-drivers

4. LargoLasskhyfv ◴[10 Dec 25 23:00 UTC] No.46225233[source]▶
It isn't on Lenovo ThinkCentres like M910q tiny. Which has integrated Intel HD630 graphics. Works every single time.