Sodium-ion batteries have started to appear in cars and home storage

> California batteries are constantly going up in flames.

What is the fraction of California batteries that went up in flames during the last year?

Yeah, yeah. Care to provide a list of burned batteries?

constantly = once

I like that you made a post complaining about people not sourcing their claims and then eight minutes later made a post declining to source your particular claim

> I don't really do research for random internet strangers

They weren’t asking you to do research for them, they asked if you had done research for yourself.

Link is right there. You're welcome to recover whatever stats are interesting to you instead of asking strangers to do free work.

I have all the data I need so let me know when you gather the relevant lifecycle & toxicity stats on your end.

There will be another one in less than 6 months¹. How much are you willing to bet?

¹https://newenergyrisk.com/battery-fires/

You already admitted that you would have to do research to back up your claim. Like if you had the data you wouldn’t need to “do research” to post it.

The information requested does not exist in the link you posted.

I said I don't do free work for strangers on the internet but like I said, let me know when you do your own research. It will be a much better use of time than wasting more keystrokes in this thread.

That's odd. I wonder why they wouldn't provide that information.

Exactly, you would have to do research to answer the question. You haven’t done it for yourself, so why should you do it for a stranger?

Which question would that be? The one about lifecycle & toxicity or percentage that goes up in flames every few months?

if YOU make a claim, you need to provide proof. simple as. anything else is a logical fallacy or malicious argument :)

You can just admit you exaggerated a lot.

This whole conversation with measurablefunc has been like seeing somebody get asked for a dollar, loudly yelling “And get a job?!” and then spending an hour trying to convince everyone in the room that they’re Bruce Wayne. I love this website.

Edit: or like seeing somebody get asked for a cookie and then saying “And go to the store? And buy sugar? And eggs? And flour? And drive home and bake them?! Hell no!” and then saying “obviously that meant I have a ton of cookies in my house right now”

> Which question would that be?

Probably the questions about all the batteries you claim are burning. The ones that you read earlier and then said that you can answer.

“I would have to do research to find a list of batteries that burned and the percentage of the batteries that burned and I do not want to do that research”

“I already did the research and have a list of burned batteries and know the percentage of them that burn but I will not share it until you research it and give your findings to me”

“With all this talk of ‘what batteries burned’ and ‘the percentage of the batteries that burned’ I have completely lost track of what anyone wants to know re: my statements about all of the batteries that I claimed are burning”

And you can admit you are uncritically supporting technology w/o understanding its safety & toxicity b/c it seems "cheap".

Data is readily available. You can do your own research or pay someone to figure it out for you if you can't.

You are welcome to follow the relevant the links & reach your own conclusions.

Buddy the way it works when you don’t know something is you just say that you don’t know it. We all know that you don’t know how many batteries burned or what fractions of them both.

You are trying to do the “get the internet to do your homework for you by posting the wrong answer” Reddit meme trick but being so incredibly off putting that it isn’t working. Nobody is going to do your research for you because everyone can tell that’s what you’re asking them to do.