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Sodium-ion batteries have started to appear in cars and home storage

(cleantechnica.com)
160 points xbmcuser | 3 comments | 23 Oct 25 01:36 UTC | HN request time: 0.213s | source
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hoistbypetard ◴[23 Oct 25 03:55 UTC] No.45678022[source]▶
I hope it's on the way, but I don't think the Pioneer Na is yet a sign of this revolution. This detailed review didn't leave me in a hurry to go get one, anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoZ_g_MShTw

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cyberax ◴[23 Oct 25 05:21 UTC] No.45678396[source]▶
The idea is not that Na-Ion batteries are better than LFPs, they are not. The main goal is to make them dirt cheap.

It seems that $15 per kWh of storage should be achievable with them. At this price, it's trivial to install enough grid-scale storage to completely move off fossil fuels in more southern areas.

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measurablefunc[dead post] ◴[23 Oct 25 05:56 UTC] No.45678602[source]▶
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cyberax ◴[23 Oct 25 05:58 UTC] No.45678616[source]▶
> California batteries are constantly going up in flames.

What is the fraction of California batteries that went up in flames during the last year?

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measurablefunc[dead post] ◴[23 Oct 25 06:00 UTC] No.45678630[source]▶
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cyberax ◴[23 Oct 25 06:34 UTC] No.45678837[source]▶
Yeah, yeah. Care to provide a list of burned batteries?
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measurablefunc[dead post] ◴[23 Oct 25 06:42 UTC] No.45678885[source]▶
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jrflowers ◴[23 Oct 25 06:47 UTC] No.45678927[source]▶
> I don't really do research for random internet strangers

They weren’t asking you to do research for them, they asked if you had done research for yourself.

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measurablefunc ◴[23 Oct 25 06:49 UTC] No.45678934[source]▶
I have all the data I need so let me know when you gather the relevant lifecycle & toxicity stats on your end.
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jrflowers ◴[23 Oct 25 06:55 UTC] No.45678971[source]▶
You already admitted that you would have to do research to back up your claim. Like if you had the data you wouldn’t need to “do research” to post it.
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measurablefunc ◴[23 Oct 25 06:57 UTC] No.45678984[source]▶
I said I don't do free work for strangers on the internet but like I said, let me know when you do your own research. It will be a much better use of time than wasting more keystrokes in this thread.
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1. kanbara ◴[23 Oct 25 07:44 UTC] No.45679289[source]▶
if YOU make a claim, you need to provide proof. simple as. anything else is a logical fallacy or malicious argument :)
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2. jrflowers ◴[23 Oct 25 10:18 UTC] No.45680251[source]▶
This whole conversation with measurablefunc has been like seeing somebody get asked for a dollar, loudly yelling “And get a job?!” and then spending an hour trying to convince everyone in the room that they’re Bruce Wayne. I love this website.

Edit: or like seeing somebody get asked for a cookie and then saying “And go to the store? And buy sugar? And eggs? And flour? And drive home and bake them?! Hell no!” and then saying “obviously that meant I have a ton of cookies in my house right now”

3. measurablefunc ◴[23 Oct 25 19:06 UTC] No.45685565[source]▶
You are welcome to follow the relevant the links & reach your own conclusions.