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Europe's EV sales surge 26% in 2025 while Tesla faces decline

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65 points doener | 5 comments | 23 Sep 25 10:42 UTC | HN request time: 0.854s | source
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maelito ◴[23 Sep 25 12:06 UTC] No.45345816[source]▶
Still, Europe has no electric-only brand.

We need it. Let the thermal engine models die.

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pjerem ◴[23 Sep 25 12:09 UTC] No.45345842[source]▶
It seems like Renault is going into this direction. Slowly but surely.
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maelito ◴[23 Sep 25 12:15 UTC] No.45345918[source]▶
Almost. Their R5 is a best-seller, but they could have launched it as a separate company.

You cannot invest in Renault's electric line. Investing in Renault means investing in new thermal cars.

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1. storus ◴[23 Sep 25 12:28 UTC] No.45346081[source]▶
R5 is unbelievably overpriced for its size and nostalgic value.
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2. orwin ◴[23 Sep 25 12:36 UTC] No.45346164[source]▶
It's a really nice car to drive though. Trunk size is too limited and get a hard pass from me (I think my next car will be an utility vehicle for my windsurf). But 25k for the battery size, interior, how nice it is to drive, I think is fair when you compare in the price range (Spring, e-C3).
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3. storus ◴[23 Sep 25 12:44 UTC] No.45346246[source]▶
I agree it's a nice car but value-wise it can't compete even with KIA Stonic. Spring is terrible due to a very low range, agreed. I think we need two more generations of batteries to make EVs fully usable, ideally 800-1000km for a single charge or 80% charge after 10 minutes for a mid-size SUV.
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4. rsynnott ◴[23 Sep 25 13:28 UTC] No.45346741{3}[source]▶
> ideally 800-1000km for a single charge

... Why? Who's driving 1000km without stopping? I mean, I'm sure a few people do occasionally, but it's a _very_ niche requirement.

5. pjc50 ◴[23 Sep 25 21:20 UTC] No.45352900{3}[source]▶
I don't need a thousand km of range, I can't go that far in the UK without falling in the sea.