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Europe's EV sales surge 26% in 2025 while Tesla faces decline

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65 points doener | 5 comments | 23 Sep 25 10:42 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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anovikov ◴[23 Sep 25 10:47 UTC] No.45345257[source]▶
Too little and too late. Draconian measures are necessary to push automakers into compliance and to push consumers to buy. It's expensive unless we want to sell out to China completely, but necessary and in the end, affordable.
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aurareturn ◴[23 Sep 25 10:51 UTC] No.45345279[source]▶

  sell out to China completely
Let China sell tens of billions of affordable EVs to Europe. Let Europe sell tens of billions of ASML EUV machines and Airbus planes to China.

Sell what each region is best at. Mutual benefits. Crazy idea right?

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1. constantcrying ◴[23 Sep 25 12:10 UTC] No.45345861[source]▶
>Let China sell tens of billions of affordable EVs to Europe.

The German economy can not survive that. There is no "mutual benefit" when what you are doing is an existential risk to the other side.

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2. aurareturn ◴[23 Sep 25 14:11 UTC] No.45347288[source]▶
Yea but French and Netherlands economy will be great. German car companies will get a kick in competition and make better cars. Consumers win.
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3. constantcrying ◴[23 Sep 25 16:17 UTC] No.45349099[source]▶
The German car industry will not survive and Germany, together with the EU will go through a major economic crisis.

That the Netherlands adds 500 jobs making EUV machines is a tiny consolation for mass unemployment in Germany, Italy, the Czech Republic, Hungary and France with millions of jobs lost.

Again, free trade is an insane idea when the proposition of one side is an existential threat to the other side.

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4. aurareturn ◴[23 Sep 25 18:25 UTC] No.45350925{3}[source]▶
So close the market, shield yourself from competition, and forever make inferior cars?

It goes both ways as well. German cars are already suffering in China as tariff retaliation.

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5. constantcrying ◴[23 Sep 25 20:47 UTC] No.45352549{4}[source]▶
>So close the market, shield yourself from competition, and forever make inferior cars?

Certainly the preferable alternative.