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    cogman10 ◴[] No.45306123[source]
    IMO, the fee is the wrong thing that needs adjusting. It's the salary that should be adjusted. The minimum salary for an H1B should be $200k. It's something like 50k right now which is ridiculous especially with all the restrictions an applicant is under. It both suppresses wages and abuses the worker.
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    1. rs186 ◴[] No.45306340[source]
    The nurse that helped save your life at ER might be on H1B getting paid $80k a year.
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    2. jpadkins ◴[] No.45306418[source]
    the counterfactual is 'is there an equally qualified nurse who didn't get the position?' There is a lot of under-employment for highly qualified US citizens.
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    3. cogman10 ◴[] No.45306468[source]
    That nurse may have just done their 6th 12h shift as well. Which they have to do or risk deportation.
    4. aaronnw2 ◴[] No.45306558[source]
    Maybe more talented Americans would become nurses if the pay met the demand.
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    5. cyberax ◴[] No.45306561[source]
    Because there aren't enough "equally qualified nurses".

    > There is a lot of under-employment for highly qualified US citizens.

    No, there isn't. Even with the current AI mess, the unemployment for highly-qualified software engineers is 2.8%: https://www.ciodive.com/news/june-jobs-report-comptia-data-I...

    The AI is now decimating the jobs for the recent CS graduates.

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    6. jpadkins ◴[] No.45306599{3}[source]
    under-employment != unemployment. I carefully selected my words. And you switched from nurses to highly-qualified engineers.

    qualified nurses are having to get jobs at retail, etc to survive. For some sectors, it's importing cheap labor (aka wage suppression).

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    7. rs186 ◴[] No.45306629[source]
    We know that's not going to happen.

    What now?

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    8. aianus ◴[] No.45306760{3}[source]
    They pay $150k for a foreign nurse and attract the best foreign nurses instead of the cheapest.
    9. bamboozled ◴[] No.45307049{4}[source]
    Hmmm, so a nurse can come from any country with any level of English and work in a US hospital without re-certification? There is a smell to this claim…
    10. seb1204 ◴[] No.45307069[source]
    We know that the US is not the only country with shortage in healthcare workers. Most countries with an ageing population face this.
    11. seanmcdirmid ◴[] No.45307155{3}[source]
    Eventually robots. Seriously, automation can eventually do a lot to make each nurse way more productive than they are.
    12. mancerayder ◴[] No.45307730[source]
    Do we know what percentage of H1B's are NOT in the tech industry?
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    13. cyberax ◴[] No.45308707{4}[source]
    The same applies to nurses. The nurse shortage has been basically non-stop since 80-s: https://nursejournal.org/articles/the-us-nursing-shortage-st...
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    14. sigwinch ◴[] No.45308912[source]
    Nurses would be TN or in the past H-1C.
    15. czl ◴[] No.45313784{5}[source]
    Long term shortages are evidence of supply controls or price controls. If nurse compensation was allowed to rise to its natural level the shortages would solve themselves. High compensation pulls people into a profession. Suppressing compensation with imported labor cures a short term problem but creates a bigger long term problem.