Why can't Apple, of all manufacturers, produce a watch that can last longer on a charge than one or two days?
Garmins easily last a week.
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I'm getting basically exactly what Garmin claims on my 45mm Venu 3-- 14 days. Wild that nobody else is even close.
There's not a shot in hell I'm ever switching from Android to iOS. People rarely do this.
Theoretically, I might buy an Apple Watch or Air Pods or Apple TV if they didn't go out of their way to make them either impossible to use without an iPhone or a living nightmare.
Oh, really?
https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/GUID-EECCAC99-90D6-4...
Looks like they last dramatically less than that if you buy an Garmin with comparable display and actually use the advertised features.
People still revert to "dumb" analogue watches or Casio stuff.
For me personally smart watch is pointless. For everything it does I have a phone. Other than that, it's just another thing that I have to babysit - want to measure sleep? Oh no I forgot to charge it before bed. There goes my measurement etc.
It's a cool gadget, but very much useless still.
Most of the benefits are because the ecosystem is tightly integrated. I expect that there isn't a large enough market and it so happens to lock people into their other products. I haven't tried using my Air Pods on an Android phone, but they work perfectly fine on my Steam Deck (Linux).
>There's not a shot in hell I'm ever switching from Android to iOS. People rarely do this.
Because the reverse situation helps Apple. A lot of iOS users can't switch to Android because the Apple Watch keeps them tied to the iPhone. It's one of their most effective lock-ins in addition to things like iMessage.
Keeping existing Apple customers may be more lucrative than trying to attract potential Android customers like you.
Or does Garmin have all the same apps as the Apple Watch or just a much better battery?
You’ve chosen your ecosystem. Plenty of watches that work with Android. (Is Android watch even a thing? I think it is).
Given your staunch preference for Android, it’s fair to say the Apple Watch is not a product made for you.
People very rarely switch phone operating systems.
There is virtually nobody with an iPhone AND an Apple Watch that's switching from iOS and Android any time soon.
The idea that Apple needs to defend that population is absurd.
That's their BIGGEST evangelists.
Why doesn't Apple not let you have a MacBook unless you have an iPhone?
Tons of people have MacBooks that have Android phones.
In any case I agree that it's crazy - particularly for Apple which tends to have pretty good power efficiency in its other devices.
Same reason I have a MacBook without an iPhone.
Overnight camping, and sleeping in a tent for a few nights is a good example. I'm not "taking a shower" and hence don't really have a great time to charge it. With my garmin I just leave it on, and it keeps working for the entire trip.
Same thing with other "adventure" travel, flying overnight, etc.
For you.
The health stuff is compelling and the marketing videos about lives saved are nice and all, but actual doctors are recommending Apple Watches for health monitoring.
Comparing both watches in activity tracking mode + AOD off, the Garmin (44h) still has 2x the battery life compared to the Apple Watch Ultra (20h).
This is true and I'm not claiming that switching is a common occurrence.
That said, the more likely os migration is from iOS-to-Android rather than Android-to-iOS. I know more than a dozen people that have switched from iPhone to Android. I know nobody that switched from Android to iPhone.
Of the people that want to leave iOS for Android but haven't pulled the trigger... what's holding them back is the Apple Watch and the iPad. The Android ecosystem (Samsung) doesn't have competitive hardware in those areas.
My friend really wants to switch to Android for the superior Google AI Assistant but can't because her Apple Watch tracks her medical stats better than Samsung/Garmin watches. She already uses Google-everything-else with Google Sheets/Docs/Calendar/Keep/Gmail/Voice. If Tim Cook made Apple Watch work perfectly with Android phones, he'd lose her as a customer.
>Why doesn't Apple not let you have a MacBook unless you have an iPhone?
PowerBook and MacBook were around as standalone before iPhone existed. The Apple Watch was always created & marketed as an accessory for the iPhone. The AirPods is a hybrid situation where they partially work with Android but it is crippled with missing features. You have to use AirPods with Apple's ecosystem for full functionality.
Funny as I bought it as they advertised sleep measurement features. I quickly realized I need to actively think about charging time and at some point I just stopped using it.
I love my Ultra, but for big running I had to go back to Garmin. I can leave the house with it half charged and still get a good 12 hours of running out of it before it dies.
OTOH, I’ve also had a Garmin 945TLE, with a cell radio in it. Fire up that cell radio, and goodbye battery life. I’ll be curious to see how that new Fenix does in the real world with its LTE radio blazing away.
This one will have even more battery life, and gets 12 hours of use in 15 minutes, which I suspect will mean for me without the always on display I may well be able to charge it only while I'm actively in the shower (when I'd take it off anyway as I hate wet bands) and be good for the day.
I generally put it on the charger every evening around 7 pm or so when I sit on the couch to do the NYT crossword and Sudoku (which come out at 7 pm in my time zone) and watch some TV or read for a while.
It then goes back on my wrist but in theater mode and with notifications silenced until morning.
It generally uses maybe 5-10% while I sleep. In the morning I turn theater mode off and un-silence notifications, and then use it to track 30-35 minutes of exercise.
It is typically still above 30% when it is time to do the next crossword.
You have to micromanage the thing. It does not just work. You have to constantly adapt strategies depending on usage pattern and lifestyle change.
I do not use smartwatch features (basically useless or worse an intrusion/interruption in your life for little benefits).
People seem to think Apple Watches are good. As an owner for 6 years or different generations, I beg to disagree.
The only thing it's good for is the quality of the data but competitors have caught up and it's not that important (consistency of measurement is more relevant). What's more when you can't use it because of battery issues it becomes moot; a bit worse data is still better than no data at all in the end.
In my opinion the Apple Watch is the perfect representation of Apple lack of focus and inability to make relevant compromise to create actually great products.
They could make a killer sport watch with low refresh rate on the display, minimum power consumption with a chip that would only run the data collection and forgo all the app bullshit to get something that could potentially last up to a week.
But they would rather sell lifestyle fashion accessories.
You begin with wine and ended there too.
If you want to check if someone is in sinus rhythm, what’s the best device to do it?