VMware's in court again. Customer relationships rarely go this wrong

1. walterbell ◴[08 Sep 25 13:09 UTC] No.45167801[source]▶

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevemcdowell/2025/08/31/broadc...

> Many mid-market and regional operators view the new [subscription] structure as untenable and are actively exploring alternatives.. Nutanix emerged early as the leading competitive alternative to VMware.. over 2,700 new customers.. driven by organizations fleeing VMware's new pricing model.. [including] more than 50 Global 2000 companies, representing major enterprises willing to undertake complex, multi-year infrastructure overhauls.. With VMware serving approximately 200,000 customers globally, Nutanix sees most of the migration opportunity still ahead.

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2. alephnerd ◴[08 Sep 25 13:14 UTC] No.45167849[source]▶

>>45167801 (TP) #

> Many mid-market and regional operators

These aren't Broadcom's ICPs.

> Nutanix

Good for Nutanix. Market segmentation exists for a reason.

The article is also written by Steve McDowell, who's analyst firm (NAND Research) is sponsored by Nutanix [0][1]

Welcome to Enterprise Sales.

[0] - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=93FbVZGDXoY

[1] - https://www.nutanix.com/theforecastbynutanix/technology/hype...

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3. walterbell ◴[08 Sep 25 13:26 UTC] No.45167986[source]▶

>>45167849 #

The article mentions several VMware alternatives:

  - RedHat OpenShift (k8s)
  - Scale Computing HC3
  - Wind River Cloud 
  - public cloud providers

Any other alternatives?

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4. sherr ◴[08 Sep 25 13:51 UTC] No.45168267{3}[source]▶

>>45167986 #

Xen is still around, including an open-source version. It's not as visible as it used to be but works e.g. XenServer (https://www.xenserver.com/editions). I'd look at this over VMWare anyday.

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5. riddley ◴[08 Sep 25 13:51 UTC] No.45168266{3}[source]▶

>>45167986 #

Proxmox leaps to mind. HyperV, XCP-ng, raw KVM..

6. cl0ckt0wer ◴[08 Sep 25 13:54 UTC] No.45168307{3}[source]▶

>>45167986 #

If you're looking at small self hosting then Proxmox.

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7. travisgriggs ◴[08 Sep 25 14:00 UTC] No.45168388{4}[source]▶

>>45168307 #

That’s where my IT department said they’re headed the other day.

8. stephen_g ◴[08 Sep 25 14:01 UTC] No.45168404{4}[source]▶

>>45168267 #

When I was looking at solutions, most of what I found seemed to indicate Xen is waning in popularity. I considered XCP-ng but since KVM seems to be more preferred now, I ended up going with Proxmox for a few small work (3-5 hosts) and home (1 and 3 host) systems. It’s actually been rock-solid, basically had zero problems with it.

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9. walterbell ◴[08 Sep 25 14:42 UTC] No.45168931{5}[source]▶

>>45168404 #

> rock-solid

Perl FTW, https://github.com/proxmox/pve-common

10. nick__m ◴[08 Sep 25 17:23 UTC] No.45171051{3}[source]▶

>>45167986 #

in no particular order:

- HPE morpheus VM Essential

- Apache Cloudstack

- Platform9

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11. jhickok ◴[08 Sep 25 17:55 UTC] No.45171543{4}[source]▶

>>45171051 #

Really feels like Openstack could use a fresh coat of paint and someone to create a nice opinionated distribution of it and challenge some of these f500 customer vmware accounts. It's very powerful, but is as user-hostile as I have personally experienced. Maybe this already exists though with Cloudstack?

12. noselasd ◴[08 Sep 25 23:12 UTC] No.45175357{3}[source]▶

>>45167986 #

Proxmox is an amazing alternative