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extr ◴[] No.45117263[source]
Zed is so great, I do wish they would focus just a little bit more on bringing the UI just a bit more up to parity with VS Code, I would switch full time.
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TheRoque ◴[] No.45117438[source]
What's so great about zed ?
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1. simonw ◴[] No.45117489[source]
It uses a fraction of the memory of VS Code and is much faster to launch.
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2. johnisgood ◴[] No.45117638[source]
Zed still takes a relatively long time to start on my old desktop. I thought something was wrong but no, it is just THAT slow. Emacs starts up faster than an empty Zed window, unfortunately. It is still way faster than IntelliJ but comparing it to that is a low bar.

VSCodium starts up faster for me than Zed which I compiled yesterday with release mode. Here I am referring to the time spent just on waiting for the window to start up, not the extensions and all that I am using with VSCodium, that takes time. I wonder why this is, that VSCodium shows the window quicker than Zed.

Regardless, I will give Zed a try with Go development. I assume Zed has extensions, too? Are there any extensions for Go? If so, I might replace VSCodium with Zed but only if it has similar features to VSCodium. If not, I will stick to VSCodium as there is no reason for me to change.

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3. yobert ◴[] No.45117908[source]
Zed has easy to use extensions, but also Go support is built in. (syntax highlighting, gofmt on save, and language server support)
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4. tracker1 ◴[] No.45117953[source]
I'm not a Zed developer, but I'm pretty sure LSP interfaces are pretty much standardized now, in large part to VS Code's efforts, so they're pretty consistent across most editors that support them.

That doesn't mean Zed will have all the other extensions that VS Code has... Recently added the new SQL Server extension(s) and it's been at least interesting, in a way slightly better than using SMMS. It's pretty much burrowing the UI from Azure Data Studio (or whatever it was called). Haven't tried similar for PG/SQLite etc yet.

5. trashface ◴[] No.45118055[source]
Do people really need that with modern computers? My computer is 10 years old and I just restarted VS in the last project I was working on. It was about 4-5 seconds before I could edit the text, which doesn't seem long. And I have 17GB available memory. Anyway it doesn't matter because I just don't restart VSCode that much. I do open projects in new windows and those can get slow, but the slow ones are mostly just rust code with rust-analyzer overhead, and when dealing with rust, slow-opening projects are only the beginning.

I don't know, it feels like Zed popularity is just people chasing the latest editor hotness, a time-honored traditional programmer ritual to be sure, but still, just a ritual. And now it seems zed devs have to put AI in front of all other initiatives, probably because of the VC funding they took.

I could see not wanting to use VSCode for other reasons, like MS pivoting back to "be evil", but at least in my little bubble, performance is not one of them.

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6. veber-alex ◴[] No.45118794[source]
VScode starts very quickly for an electron app. MS did a great job there.

Memory usage of the IDE doesn't matter much when your language servers can eat 10s of gigs of RAM.

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7. veber-alex ◴[] No.45118821[source]
I agree with you.

I tried Zed several times and I just don't see the point.

The main issues with VScode over something like the Jetbrains IDEs is that language servers are just not as powerful or as integrated to the IDE as the Jetbrains solution can be and Zed does nothing to solve it.

I don't think it being a native app offers much added value.

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8. johnisgood ◴[] No.45118859{3}[source]
It's builtin? Nice. I will give it a try, then!

I wonder why the startup time is slow though, may have to debug that one.

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10. eviks ◴[] No.45122969[source]
> for an electron app

But the comparison here is broader than electron apps...