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181 points Bogdanp | 9 comments | | HN request time: 1.177s | source | bottom
1. ShakataGaNai ◴[] No.45116918[source]
Thank you, that's the one thing I'd expect to be a screenshot in a github repo. Regardless, I don't find it particularly legible. The taller aspect ratio with narrow letter gap actually is not super readable to me?

Maybe It's "more readable" for plane screen fonts than the other alternatives. It's not fair looking at a font on a 49" highdef ultrawide and saying "This isn't as good".

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2. kergonath ◴[] No.45117051[source]
> Thank you, that's the one thing I'd expect to be a screenshot in a github repo.

Indeed. That’s clearly missing from the readme.

> Maybe It's "more readable" for plane screen fonts than the other alternatives. It's not fair looking at a font on a 49" highdef ultrawide and saying "This isn't as good".

Yeah. Their benchmark was suboptimal conditions in an aircraft cockpit. I would assume that they tested drastically different lighting conditions and exotic factors (for a font designed for computers) such as motion, vibration, and crew exhaustion.

3. cratermoon ◴[] No.45118358[source]
It's very readable at small sizes. Try 8 point.

Edit: even better, grab a METAR from your favorite airport and drop it in at 8 point

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4. bingo-bongo ◴[] No.45119856[source]
Maybe the taller aspect ratio is due to cockpit surfaces being more horizontal or vertical than eyesight..?

Like letters/words painted on the road for drivers to read them.

5. Doxin ◴[] No.45119867[source]
That's surprisingly readable for such a tiny size!
6. riedel ◴[] No.45125085[source]
I wonder if the main effect is that it is readable for people with begining presbyopia (like me). It seems that this is a problem particularly for pilots and it can be compensated heavily by optimizing visual processing [0]. I at least have the feeling that the small font could be perfect for packaging as it seems to be better readable with my age related farsightedness and could relieve my struggles shopping.

[0] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S004269891...

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7. saltcured ◴[] No.45129034[source]
It's funny, I see it and immediately feel it has too much spacing on that specimen page. On my laptop screen at its default presentation, it approaches where my brain starts to fixate on dissociated letters instead of words.

I've also experimented with custom fonts on my (Garmin) watch and found that taller and narrowly spaced characters seem to increase legibility for me. This is for mostly decimal data, and I want to read with very brief glances, in challenging viewing conditions, rather than linger to appreciate the graphemes.

8. cratermoon ◴[] No.45134137{3}[source]
Well I have slightly more advanced than beginning presbyopia and wear reading glasses almost all the time now. My experience with most fonts is why I noted B612's legibility at small sizes.
9. eternityforest ◴[] No.45135565{3}[source]
Atkinson Hyperlegible is very specifically designed for visual accessibility, and it's what I use in my automation app, both for accessibility and on the assumption that it's probably also a good general purpose high reliability font.

But another comment pointed out that B612 might be specifically tested in conditions with vibration and fatigue and other factors like that. I wonder how Atkinson compares?