Is 4chan the perfect Pirate Bay poster child to justify wider UK site-blocking?

And not corporate despite the lobbying?

Afaik not a single serious ngo support this.

Lobbying only does something if government is corrupt.

It depends what you consider a “serious NGO,” but the NSPCC, the Molly Rose Foundation, the Breck Foundation, the End Violence Against Women Coalition, and other NGOs actively campaigned for and supported it.

Well sure, but no true NGO supports it.

This is either a tautology or meaningless, depending on semantics.

Q: Are there today, or have there ever been in history, any non-corrupt governments (that by your implication are invulnerable to lobbying)?

I’m pretty sure lobbying is a thing everywhere, regardless of corruption. People want the government to do stuff and will try to make it happen, from autocracies to direct democracies and everything in between.

Of course. Writing to your representative is you wanting the government to do something. There's nothing wrong with that. It's only when government is corrupt that it's a problem.

So you’re saying “lobbying can do something, even when the government is not corrupt”?

If so, then yes, that’s the point I was making, which refutes the statement that lobbying only does something if the government is corrupt. If not, then I’m confused, please help me understand what I’m missing.