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pharos92 ◴[] No.45007882[source]
From my perspective, this is born out of NGO's and political elite. This is not an ask from or concern of the general population.
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0dayz ◴[] No.45009492[source]
And not corporate despite the lobbying?

Afaik not a single serious ngo support this.

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1. philipallstar ◴[] No.45009716[source]
Lobbying only does something if government is corrupt.
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2. cobbzilla ◴[] No.45020237[source]
This is either a tautology or meaningless, depending on semantics.

Q: Are there today, or have there ever been in history, any non-corrupt governments (that by your implication are invulnerable to lobbying)?

I’m pretty sure lobbying is a thing everywhere, regardless of corruption. People want the government to do stuff and will try to make it happen, from autocracies to direct democracies and everything in between.

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3. philipallstar ◴[] No.45023829[source]
Of course. Writing to your representative is you wanting the government to do something. There's nothing wrong with that. It's only when government is corrupt that it's a problem.
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4. cobbzilla ◴[] No.45033738{3}[source]
So you’re saying “lobbying can do something, even when the government is not corrupt”?

If so, then yes, that’s the point I was making, which refutes the statement that lobbying only does something if the government is corrupt. If not, then I’m confused, please help me understand what I’m missing.