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Helsinki records zero traffic deaths for full year

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1163 points DaveZale | 1 comments | 30 Jul 25 16:08 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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max_ ◴[02 Aug 25 19:46 UTC] No.44770751[source]▶
"More than half of Helsinki’s streets now have speed limits of 30 km/h."

This is the only secret.

People over speeding is what kills.

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astura ◴[02 Aug 25 19:49 UTC] No.44770777[source]▶
For dumb Americans like me - that 18.641 miles/hr.
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Dig1t[dead post] ◴[02 Aug 25 19:53 UTC] No.44770819[source]▶
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9dev ◴[02 Aug 25 20:01 UTC] No.44770895[source]▶
Not as painful as getting run over, apparently.
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userbinator[dead post] ◴[02 Aug 25 21:06 UTC] No.44771478[source]▶
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knome ◴[02 Aug 25 21:20 UTC] No.44771605[source]▶
Looking both ways is undone if drivers are speeding, not bothering to stop at stop signs and being generally unpredictable and dangerous.

Blaming pedestrians for getting run over by speeders that are too impatient to drive at safe speeds in residential areas is a ludicrous opinion to take.

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wyre ◴[03 Aug 25 04:09 UTC] No.44774019[source]▶
I’d go a step further and say blaming pedestrians for getting ran over when a driver can’t pay attention to avoid them is a ludicrous opinion. If anyone disagrees I ask what traffic rule is more important than a human life?
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userbinator ◴[03 Aug 25 22:04 UTC] No.44780231[source]▶
If anyone disagrees I ask what traffic rule is more important than a human life?

How is that relevant? This is simple physics, the laws of reality which you seem to be desperately trying to avoid to make some sort of ideological point.

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1. wyre ◴[05 Aug 25 02:13 UTC] No.44793628[source]▶
What do you mean? Rules, laws, and blame are not simple physics. It is a driver's responsibility to pay attention when driving. I will ask again in a different way: what situation is it correct to blame a non-suicidal pedestrian for their own death when struck by an automobile? Surely it is an ideological point that I believe there is no situation where I think the pedestrian should be at fault for being hit by a car, but if you disagree (it seems like you do) I ask why you believe the rights of the automobile is greater than the cost of a human life.