Most active commenters
  • userbinator(5)

←back to thread

Helsinki records zero traffic deaths for full year

(www.helsinkitimes.fi)
1163 points DaveZale | 11 comments | 30 Jul 25 16:08 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
Show context
max_ ◴[02 Aug 25 19:46 UTC] No.44770751[source]▶
"More than half of Helsinki’s streets now have speed limits of 30 km/h."

This is the only secret.

People over speeding is what kills.

replies(15): >>44770777 #>>44770835 #>>44770930 #>>44770933 #>>44770965 #>>44771249 #>>44771579 #>>44771659 #>>44771841 #>>44771921 #>>44772000 #>>44772213 #>>44772231 #>>44776460 #>>44779615 #
astura ◴[02 Aug 25 19:49 UTC] No.44770777[source]▶
For dumb Americans like me - that 18.641 miles/hr.
replies(3): >>44770819 #>>44774101 #>>44779652 #
Dig1t[dead post] ◴[02 Aug 25 19:53 UTC] No.44770819[source]▶
[flagged]
1. 9dev ◴[02 Aug 25 20:01 UTC] No.44770895[source]▶
Not as painful as getting run over, apparently.
replies(1): >>44771478 #
2. knome ◴[02 Aug 25 21:20 UTC] No.44771605[source]▶
Looking both ways is undone if drivers are speeding, not bothering to stop at stop signs and being generally unpredictable and dangerous.

Blaming pedestrians for getting run over by speeders that are too impatient to drive at safe speeds in residential areas is a ludicrous opinion to take.

replies(2): >>44772869 #>>44774019 #
3. userbinator ◴[03 Aug 25 00:04 UTC] No.44772869{3}[source]▶
If you can't estimate how fast traffic is moving, you are either a child too young to cross unattended, or an idiot deserving of your fate.

Pedestrians have far better visibility and can stop or change directions far more quickly than the slowest car.

replies(2): >>44775056 #>>44776264 #
4. wyre ◴[03 Aug 25 04:09 UTC] No.44774019{3}[source]▶
I’d go a step further and say blaming pedestrians for getting ran over when a driver can’t pay attention to avoid them is a ludicrous opinion. If anyone disagrees I ask what traffic rule is more important than a human life?
replies(1): >>44780231 #
5. userbinator ◴[03 Aug 25 08:29 UTC] No.44775056{4}[source]▶
Apparently the laws of physics are lost on those who don't believe me.
6. Mawr ◴[03 Aug 25 12:57 UTC] No.44776253[source]▶
Whatever happened to the person choosing to operate dangerous machinery being the one responsible for it? Putting the onus of safety on everyone else is incredibly selfish and of course illogical.

Oh, and I'll be sure to tell my blind friend to look both ways before crossing.

replies(1): >>44780212 #
7. Mawr ◴[03 Aug 25 12:59 UTC] No.44776264{4}[source]▶
Were you forced to operate your vehicle by the pedestrian crossing the street? No? Then take responsibility for your own damn choices. You're the one endangering everyone around you, not the pedestrians.
replies(1): >>44780176 #
8. userbinator ◴[03 Aug 25 21:56 UTC] No.44780176{5}[source]▶
Were you forced to cross the street without looking either?

What fucking retarded arguments these anti-car radicalists spew...

9. userbinator ◴[03 Aug 25 22:01 UTC] No.44780212{3}[source]▶
If you can't see how the laws of physics work, then I have no interest in talking to you.

Blind people have their own accommodations, so they're irrelevant to this stupid argument.

10. userbinator ◴[03 Aug 25 22:04 UTC] No.44780231{4}[source]▶
If anyone disagrees I ask what traffic rule is more important than a human life?

How is that relevant? This is simple physics, the laws of reality which you seem to be desperately trying to avoid to make some sort of ideological point.

replies(1): >>44793628 #
11. wyre ◴[05 Aug 25 02:13 UTC] No.44793628{5}[source]▶
What do you mean? Rules, laws, and blame are not simple physics. It is a driver's responsibility to pay attention when driving. I will ask again in a different way: what situation is it correct to blame a non-suicidal pedestrian for their own death when struck by an automobile? Surely it is an ideological point that I believe there is no situation where I think the pedestrian should be at fault for being hit by a car, but if you disagree (it seems like you do) I ask why you believe the rights of the automobile is greater than the cost of a human life.