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480 points riffraff | 6 comments | 04 Jul 25 04:52 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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dang ◴[04 Jul 25 09:51 UTC] No.44463006[source]▶
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saubeidl ◴[04 Jul 25 08:17 UTC] No.44462362[source]▶
In related news:

* Data centers powering artificial intelligence could use more electricity than entire cities [0]

* Google’s emissions up 51% as AI electricity demand derails efforts to go green [1]

* AI is poised to drive 160% increase in data center power demand [2]

It is a doomsday cult in the most literal sense.

[0] https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/23/data-centers-powering-ai-cou...

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/27/google-em...

[2] https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/articles/AI-poised-to-...

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1. throwpoaster ◴[04 Jul 25 08:48 UTC] No.44462554[source]▶
Electrical consumption does not emit greenhouse gasses.

Electrical production can emit greenhouse gasses, and there is an argument we should be inventing and investing in decarbonizing it.

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2. saubeidl ◴[04 Jul 25 08:48 UTC] No.44462561[source]▶
Consumption drives production.
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3. Yizahi ◴[04 Jul 25 09:04 UTC] No.44462660[source]▶
You can't "decarbonize" anything on this planet, it is not possible by definition. Even green electrical production emits a lot of GH gasses out of the whole production cycle. I'm all for the green tech of course, I just don't like highly misleading terms like "decarbonize", "net zero" etc.
4. guappa ◴[04 Jul 25 09:04 UTC] No.44462661[source]▶
We are, but if we keep consuming even more, we're not solving anything.
5. imhoguy ◴[04 Jul 25 09:52 UTC] No.44463011[source]▶
Decarbonization is a wet dream. Alternative energy sources require toxic minerals extraction and manufacturing which turns biosystems into dead wastelands and waterlands into dry dustlands.

The only way is to lower consumption drastically, end the constant growth chase, and enbrance closed carbon cycle (biodiverse biomass).

6. throwpoaster ◴[04 Jul 25 13:33 UTC] No.44464408[source]▶
The data are not clear on that. Some things we consume just because they are produced. This is the idea behind Supply Side Economics.