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blakeashleyjr ◴[] No.44360605[source]
Dreams:

>Framework-like upgradability / repairability / modularity

>Support for GrapheneOS

>Sold in USA

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1. bramhaag ◴[] No.44361352[source]
GrapheneOS support for Fairphone is unlikely to ever happen. Their hardware is too insecure to satisfy GOS's reasonable requirements [1] and have stated that they aren't interested in improving it [2]. Software is also lacking and they've partnered with Murena [3], who has been slinging shit at GOS [4].

On a more positive note, due to the AOSP/Pixel drama there now is a real possibility a different major OEM will be supported: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114711328082841462

[1] https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

[2] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114733211017800480

[3] https://murena.com/

[4] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114235396540176085

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2. beeflet ◴[] No.44361856[source]
I think that secure elements pose a greater disadvantage to the consumer due to vendor lockdown than the advantages in physical security make up for.
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4. TheCraiggers ◴[] No.44362712[source]
That's excellent news that they're partnering with an OEM to make something. Here's hoping it's someone like Framework that has sustainability in mind as well.
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5. noisy_boy ◴[] No.44363013[source]
Why not Framework themselves? By now, they have brand recognition to certain extent and a ready customer base - I think a Framework phone with choices of GrapheneOS or LineageOS or standard Googleized option could be a very compelling product.

That is if they can sort out their availability gaps.

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6. UnreachableCode ◴[] No.44363149{3}[source]
Massive cost.
7. 8K832d7tNmiQ ◴[] No.44364210[source]
> On a more positive note, due to the AOSP/Pixel drama there now is a real possibility a different major OEM will be supported

I really do not know which other major OEM other than exynos-based samsung that comes near GOS' checklist, but here I am hoping if he is talking about Nothing phone.