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    1. blakeashleyjr ◴[] No.44360605[source]
    Dreams:

    >Framework-like upgradability / repairability / modularity

    >Support for GrapheneOS

    >Sold in USA

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    2. bramhaag ◴[] No.44361352[source]
    GrapheneOS support for Fairphone is unlikely to ever happen. Their hardware is too insecure to satisfy GOS's reasonable requirements [1] and have stated that they aren't interested in improving it [2]. Software is also lacking and they've partnered with Murena [3], who has been slinging shit at GOS [4].

    On a more positive note, due to the AOSP/Pixel drama there now is a real possibility a different major OEM will be supported: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114711328082841462

    [1] https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

    [2] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114733211017800480

    [3] https://murena.com/

    [4] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114235396540176085

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    3. beeflet ◴[] No.44361789[source]
    Their phones are sold in the USA through Murena. I've bought a fairphone 4 through them. It was preloaded with eOS but I loaded calyxOS on it, which is similar to GrapheneOS.

    https://murena.com/products/smartphones/

    It also supports a lot of linux distributions, including UBPorts and postmarketOS.

    I wish that they would just stick with one form factor and do the "framework computer" approach though.

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    4. beeflet ◴[] No.44361856[source]
    I think that secure elements pose a greater disadvantage to the consumer due to vendor lockdown than the advantages in physical security make up for.
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    6. TheCraiggers ◴[] No.44362712[source]
    That's excellent news that they're partnering with an OEM to make something. Here's hoping it's someone like Framework that has sustainability in mind as well.
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    7. noisy_boy ◴[] No.44363013{3}[source]
    Why not Framework themselves? By now, they have brand recognition to certain extent and a ready customer base - I think a Framework phone with choices of GrapheneOS or LineageOS or standard Googleized option could be a very compelling product.

    That is if they can sort out their availability gaps.

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    8. UnreachableCode ◴[] No.44363149{4}[source]
    Massive cost.
    9. chappi42 ◴[] No.44363867[source]
    calyxOS is _not_ similar to GrapheneOS
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    10. 8K832d7tNmiQ ◴[] No.44364210[source]
    > On a more positive note, due to the AOSP/Pixel drama there now is a real possibility a different major OEM will be supported

    I really do not know which other major OEM other than exynos-based samsung that comes near GOS' checklist, but here I am hoping if he is talking about Nothing phone.

    11. freeAgent ◴[] No.44365640{3}[source]
    It’s similar in some ways, like being de-Googled, more private than Google’s Android OS by default, etc. Both are based on AOSP. They are “similar.”