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robertlagrant ◴[] No.44289775[source]
> When Facebook bought WhatsApp for $19 billion in 2014, the messaging app had a clear focus. No ads, no games and no gimmicks.

This sort of analysis is very surface-level I think. My impression is WhatsApp offered that by running on VC money and had no plan to run an actual business. That's not a question of focus. It's an unsustainable, please monetise me later land grab.

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1. BiggerChungus ◴[] No.44291284[source]
Respectfully, clearly you aren't familiar with Jan and Brian's history of public statements.

Even for years after they were acquired by Meta, Jan refused to allow advertising and kept pushing the $1 dollar per user subscription fee. Sheryl nixed it b/c it was "not scalable."

VC's may have the mindset that the founders will eventually acquiesce to ads, but also they didn't really care b/c all they wanted was an exit, which they got.

The founders, however, were never interested in an ad business and hold that POV to this day.

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2. robertlagrant ◴[] No.44291364[source]
> The founders, however, were never interested in an ad business and hold that POV to this day.

Fair enough, but the founders don't necessarily make these decisions. I wasn't particularly referring to them. If they got VC money (I don't know if they did or not) then the VCs must've had something in mind to get a decent return on their risk.

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3. otterley ◴[] No.44293547[source]
They did have VC funding from Sequoia Capital. (https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/whatsapp/financial_d...)
4. eviks ◴[] No.44295347[source]
> VC's may have the mindset that the founders will eventually acquiesce to ads > history of public statements.

Actions speak louder. He did acquiesce - he sold to an ad-financed company.

> and hold that POV to this day.

You can hold any POV when nothing depends on it.

5. udev4096 ◴[] No.44295774[source]
Brian Acton is a fucking sell out. Peroid. He deserves no sympathy and I cannot believe how he was appointed executive chairperson of signal foundation