Changes since congestion pricing started in New York

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philipallstar ◴[14 May 25 14:36 UTC] No.43985073[source]▶

The increased speeds are excellent for those who can afford the toll. This is a universal benefit of toll roads for those people.

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bryanlarsen ◴[14 May 25 14:45 UTC] No.43985179[source]▶

>>43985073 #

And the investments in public transit and bike paths are excellent for those who can't. Such unalloyed win-wins are hard to find.

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lokar ◴[14 May 25 14:47 UTC] No.43985193[source]▶

>>43985179 #

I lived in Manhattan, and was very well paid. I did not own a car, and loved it. This would have been great for me as well.

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timewizard ◴[14 May 25 22:33 UTC] No.43989879[source]▶

>>43985193 #

Did you have children or did you live alone?

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donohoe ◴[14 May 25 23:12 UTC] No.43990154[source]▶

>>43989879 #

I live in Brooklyn with kids and do not have a car. Equally possible in Manhattan - have car-less friends with kids there too.

Just saying it is possible, and certainly not everyone’s choice.

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1. vb234 ◴[15 May 25 00:51 UTC] No.43990742[source]▶

>>43990154 #

Same. We live in Manhattan with two kids and owning a car is just an added expense without much benefit. To be fair, if you lived further out in Brooklyn (Bayridge, Sussex Beach and Coney Island) you probably need a car for the day to day.

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2. askafriend ◴[15 May 25 01:35 UTC] No.43990980[source]▶

>>43990742 (TP) #

Overall, would you recommend Manhattan (or nearby) with kids? What's your experience been like and do you see staying long term?

Hope you don't mind me asking, I'm just super curious about this topic!

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3. whoodle ◴[15 May 25 02:15 UTC] No.43991205[source]▶

>>43990742 (TP) #

Any rough guess the min income to raise a kid in manhattan nowadays?

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4. baq ◴[15 May 25 05:47 UTC] No.43992195[source]▶

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5. donohoe ◴[15 May 25 18:23 UTC] No.43997798[source]▶

>>43990980 #

You didn't ask me, but I can say that Manhattan and Brooklyn both are great for kids. It does vary be neighborhood though and I can speak to Brooklyn the most. Overall great parks, good schools, lots of culture and things to do. Beaches accessible by subway etc.

If you are considering a move to NYC with young kids the real thing to look at are the public elementary schools and the zones for them. That should be the north star for choosing where to live unless your kids are older.

6. vb234 ◴[18 May 25 15:04 UTC] No.44021916[source]▶

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We are committed to staying here for the long term. I think it is a matter of perspective and what one wants to prioritize. From a cost perspective, I think the cost of raising 2-kids in the suburbs or cute towns outside the city within commuting distance nets out to about the same. The advantages I see are the following: * Children are just more active on average, kids end up walking 45 minutes or more every day going back and forth from school, activities etc. * Subway and general community interaction. I get the subways are a pain, but it is a great way for children to interact with different classes of people and communities, understand social risks etc. * Meritocratic public high school system. I have some reservations about the elementary and middle school systems, but there are 4 elementary schools within a 15 minute walk radius so there is optionality, admittedly it is a bit hard to exercise. * So many play grounds. We take our kids to various activities and classes on the weekends, and we are never far away from an interesting playground.

I think it really depends on what will keep you and your family happiest. We have friends that determined they want more space and privacy and ended up moving to the suburbs and are happy. Know enough families that moved out and couldn’t handle the sedentary lifestyle and moved back. Feel free to message me if you have more questions.

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