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First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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606 points saikatsg | 2 comments | 08 May 25 16:30 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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afavour ◴[08 May 25 17:54 UTC] No.43929124[source]▶
> "Cardinal George of Chicago, of happy memory, was one of my great mentors, and he said: 'Look, until America goes into political decline, there won't be an American pope.' And his point was, if America is kind of running the world politically, culturally, economically, they don't want America running the world religiously. So, I think there's some truth to that, that we're such a superpower and so dominant, they don't wanna give us, also, control over the church."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-pope-could-it-be-american-c...

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bbor ◴[08 May 25 18:04 UTC] No.43929272[source]▶
For what it’s worth, I was just reading that Leo wasn’t seen as “completely” American due to his many years in Peru — he’s even a citizen. Take that as you will.
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tptacek ◴[08 May 25 19:02 UTC] No.43930040[source]▶

    1955 born (chicago)
    1977 seminary grad (chicago)
    1982 ordination (->rome)
    1985 canon law doctor (->peru)
    1999 midwest augustinians (->chicago)
    2001 global augustinians (->rome)
    2015 bishop (->peru)
    2021 dicasterate (->rome)
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fblp ◴[08 May 25 19:24 UTC] No.43930286[source]▶
Seems like he's spent 2 years in the US since he was 27.
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dragonwriter ◴[08 May 25 20:51 UTC] No.43931194[source]▶
Wait till you see how long Cardinal Pizzaballa who was viewed as the most likely Italian contender for the Papacy, has spent in the Holy Land and not Italy.
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anonymars ◴[08 May 25 21:57 UTC] No.43931776[source]▶
> Cardinal Pizzaballa

Not going to lie, I had to check that this was a real name (it is)

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Detrytus ◴[09 May 25 00:51 UTC] No.43932813{3}[source]▶
I have a coworker right now whose name is Carmelo Martini. Seriously, I had to ask him: "did your parents name you after their favorite drink?".
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1. pmontra ◴[09 May 25 05:34 UTC] No.43934065{4}[source]▶
I get the joke but it goes the other way around. Martini is a common family name from the north of Italy (Carmelo is common given name in the south). The drink was named after the name of company producing it (actually half of it.) The company was named Martini because that was the family name of the founder.

The drink https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini_(vermouth)

The company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini_%26_Rossi

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2. SideburnsOfDoom ◴[09 May 25 09:13 UTC] No.43935074[source]▶
Much like how a first name Mercedes or a last name Ford isn't necessarily a person named after a car. The cars are named after people