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    theshrike79 ◴[] No.43801919[source]
    And the worst thing is that Elon could've been a living legend by building/funding colleges and schools focused on the tech his companies need, software development, robotics etc. Or even given out million dollar scholarships for the very top students.

    And he still would've been worth over 250 billion easily.

    Instead he chose to buy the president and start "optimising" the government with AI.

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    le-mark ◴[] No.43802715[source]
    Elon has proven to truly be the dumbest smart guy ever. He alienated Tesla’s core customers; tree hugging liberals, and anyone who cares about sustainability. The GOP nor their voters care and never will. I called this Tesla stock crash months ago; did not act on it though.
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    1. skellera ◴[] No.43803884[source]
    I think less people care about it politically than you think. Most people I know who have Teslas stand by the product even through Elon’s dumb shit.

    I think people care more about their own convenience. There’s nothing else in our market that’s even comparable. People talk a lot of shit and it wasn’t great to start but FSD is on a different level now, especially on newer cars like the new Model Y. Having a car that mostly drives itself is the best purchase I’ve ever made.

    It doesn’t seem to be slowing down sales in Seattle. New Model Ys are everywhere here.

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    2. gdudeman ◴[] No.43804173[source]
    This anecdote doesn’t match the data.

    It is definitely slowing demand. You can see it in the Q1 numbers and the discounts on vehicles.

    You can ask anyone who buys used EVs in Seattle. There is a glut of Tesla sellers and not many buyers.

    Like it or not, your car says a lot about you. People bought Teslas because they liked what they said and now they are avoiding them because they don’t like it.

    3. toomuchtodo ◴[] No.43804312[source]
    Tesla once again tells its own CEO Elon Musk to knock it off with the politics - https://electrek.co/2025/04/22/tesla-once-again-tells-ceo-el... - April 22nd, 2025

    67% of Americans would not consider buying a Tesla, new poll says - https://electrek.co/2025/03/28/most-americans-would-not-cons... - March 28th, 2025

    Tesla sales fall by 49% in Europe even as the electric vehicle market grows - https://apnews.com/article/tesla-sales-recall-trump-byd-b6f5... - March 25, 2025

    Tesla is done in Germany: 94% say they won’t buy a Tesla car - https://electrek.co/2025/03/14/tesla-is-done-in-germany-94-s... - March 14th, 2025

    Australian Tesla sales plummet as owners rush to distance themselves from Elon Musk -https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/06/australia... - March 6th, 2025

    (own several Teslas, won't buy another)

    4. isoprophlex ◴[] No.43805198[source]
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    5. FirmwareBurner ◴[] No.43805679[source]
    That's crazy. Where's that?

    Good thing I live in a country where Europeans aren't mentally deranged.

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    6. tessierashpool ◴[] No.43805807[source]
    Having a car that mostly drives itself is the best purchase I’ve ever made.

    ok, you can get that with a Hyundai though.

    higher-quality, too, yet the Tesla costs more.

    7. tessierashpool ◴[] No.43805821{3}[source]
    your question is crazy, dude.

    a lot of Europeans remember the Nazis and didn't like the Nazi salute.

    WW2 was memorable for a lot of people.

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    8. voidspark ◴[] No.43806004{4}[source]
    I recently saw a compilation of Democrat politicians doing the exact same "Nazi salute" over the years. Obama, Hillary, Sanders, AOC, etc.

    Even the ADL released a statement saying that it was obviously not a Nazi salute. People are actually delusional. Extremely childish and idiotic.

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    11. tzs ◴[] No.43808512{5}[source]
    > I recently saw a compilation of Democrat politicians doing the exact same "Nazi salute" over the years. Obama, Hillary, Sanders, AOC, etc.

    No, you did not. You saw a collection of Democrat politicians whose arms at one point were sticking out in the same position that arms stick out at the end of a Nazi salute. This happens all the time. I do it 3 days a week when making breakfast.

    What Musk did was start with his arm down, rapidly raise it to his heart, and then forcefully thrust it out to the position usually shows in photographs of Hitler doing the salute. There are videos of Hitler doing that full hand to heart and then thrust gesture that almost exactly match Musk's gesture from start to finish.

    When you track down the videos that the purported Democrat examples are taken from you will see that none of them did that. They were doing things like pointing, or waving to a crowd, or gesticulating while they talked, and in the midst of that their arms ended up in that position.

    12. tomhow ◴[] No.43808525{7}[source]
    Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

    https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html