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OpenAI o3 and o4-mini

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555 points maheshrijal | 9 comments | 16 Apr 25 17:01 UTC | HN request time: 0.323s | source | bottom
1. planb ◴[16 Apr 25 17:15 UTC] No.43707887[source]▶
What is wrong with OpenAI? The naming of their models seems like it is intentionally confusing - maybe to distract from lack of progress? Honestly, I have no idea which model to use for simply everyday tasks anymore.
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2. sho_hn ◴[16 Apr 25 17:20 UTC] No.43707954[source]▶
Seems to me like they're somewhat trying to simplify now.

GPT-N.m -> Non-reasoning

oN -> Reasoning

oN+1-mini -> Reasoning but speedy; cut-down version of an upcoming oN model (unclear if true or marketing)

It would be nice if they actually stick to this pattern.

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3. dabeeeenster ◴[16 Apr 25 17:21 UTC] No.43707970[source]▶
It really is bizarre. If you had asked me 2 days ago I would have said unequivically that these models already existed. Surely given the rate of change a date-based numbering system would be more helpful?
4. i_love_retros ◴[16 Apr 25 17:23 UTC] No.43707996[source]▶
I tend to look at the lmarena leaderboard to see what to use (or the aider polyglot leaderboard for coding)
5. xd1936 ◴[16 Apr 25 17:23 UTC] No.43708010[source]▶
Fix coming this summer, hopefully.

https://twitter.com/sama/status/1911906570835022319

6. ◴[16 Apr 25 17:24 UTC] No.43708019[source]▶
7. jagger27 ◴[16 Apr 25 17:24 UTC] No.43708026[source]▶
Are the oN models built on top of GPT-N.m models? It would be nice to know the lineage there.
8. bogtog ◴[16 Apr 25 17:29 UTC] No.43708083[source]▶
I suspect that "ChatGPT-4o" is the most confusing part. Absolutely baffling to go with that and then later "oN", but surely they will avoid any "No" models moving forward
9. krackers ◴[16 Apr 25 20:09 UTC] No.43709806[source]▶
But we have both 4o and 4.1 for non-reasoning. And it's still not clear to me which is better (the comparison on their page was from an older version of 4o).