Half the men in Seattle are never-married singles, census data shows

Or maybe the porn gives them everything they need from a relationship and we’re seeing that there’s a larger segment that genuinely doesn’t need/want to be in a relationship.

This boggles my mind, porn only takes the place of a very small part of a healthy relationship.

For you or me maybe, but what if some people just don’t want to be in a relationship but still want that particular need (sexual gratification) to be met?

Yes, the discounting of other aspects is my mental block.

I understand that everyone has different desires, but it is hard for me to, personally, empathize with. Hence the mind boggling.

I have currently some relationship issues so I might be biased but I keep asking myself what will I miss if not in relationship except sex that cannot be supplemented with family or friends… I've yet to find the answer.

Many people do a lousy job of looking after their own health, including their mental health.

Having all of your sex come from porn is like having all of your meals come from McDonald's. And that's a choice you can make. It's probably not the best choice, but a fair number of people do in fact make it.

It was for me as well, but the more I’ve worked in tech, the more men I’ve met that simply aren’t capable of a relationship.

I wouldnt be be surprised if there’s already a “relationship free” movement/group/trend similar to “childfree”.

That assumes people think they can find a healthy relationship.

The dating world is incredibly messed up right now.

You can indeed have a perfectly healthy life with friends as your closest companions. It's really helpful to have a small number of partners who can take the primary position in an emergency, and it helps if they are in fact very close to you (ideally, cohabitating). There's no reason those people need to be sex partners, though it can be convenient.

You can construct your family in a lot of different ways. Having a lot of friends, some very close friends, and zero lovers is a perfectly valid one.

At least, it was becoming such. Legally, there is more and more push back against structures other than one male and one female, who are each other's sole and perpetual means of support.

The number of people who are capable of forming a healthy relationship is a subset of the single people out there. Being in a healthy relationship is a luxury available to the few, not a default lifestyle.

Some people have decided that they don't need a relationship to be happy. They've found other ways to cope. For some this may be sour grapes. But that's another coping mechanism in itself!

Then again, if what you primary want from relationship is sex, then it is better for everyone if you either use port or hop on some one-night-stand kind of scene/app.

Because stringing along some poor soul that looks for actual relationship and let her waste months to figure out this relationship was never going to happen sux.

True. Though it does help to have some close female companions at some point in order to be able to see what that one night stand looks like from her point of view. Too many men do not understand why she has to be cautious and how to assuage those fears, and end up blaming women for it.

There is, it is called MGTOW.

Vibes are totally different though. People go childfree by choice, whereas men go MGTOW because there __is no other choice__ (that they find easy or preferable). I've heard it described before as "men sent their own way (MSTOW)", which is fitting since one usually identifies with the label after many unsuccessful relationships.