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1210 points jbegley | 3 comments | 11 Apr 25 16:24 UTC | HN request time: 0.645s | source
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mjevans ◴[11 Apr 25 18:31 UTC] No.43656889[source]▶
I think my country (USA) would be healthier if a common sense viewpoint was selected and held.

Conflicts are always terrible, and the Eurasia / Africa region countries are particularly brutal.

Every citizen of every country has a human right (in a civilized civilization / society) to live a life that does not involve violence. A life where they are not worried about RPGs, bombings, (etc,) or military invasions.

Some sources of conflict involve places which various (different) religions hold as sacred / holy. Those sites should become UN world heritage locations and be managed by the UN in ways that only allow non-military peaceful access for any who want to visit.

With respect to Gaza my personal opinion remains unchanged. Both an innocent civilian people who suffer, and a terrorist government, remain in that region. The civilians should be evacuated. The terrorists who remain after (or whom are caught and found guilty in a trial) should be purged. The country should then be cleaned up, rebuilt, and returned to the innocent people along with a training-wheels UN supported government that brings stability, peace, and prevents a resurgence of hate and terrorism. In a few generations the country can grow more stable and graduate from the guided government structure.

That would be not just a two state solution, but a two states and global peace sites solution.

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thot_experiment ◴[11 Apr 25 18:39 UTC] No.43656982[source]▶
this is grossly misunderstanding the situation in Gaza, a two state solution was never acceptable to Israel, Hamas as it exists today is a result of Netanyahu policy. Israel created the monster to justify their genocide.
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1. HappyPanacea ◴[11 Apr 25 18:54 UTC] No.43657187[source]▶
> a two state solution was never acceptable to Israel

Wrong, they accepted the 1947 partition plan and agreed to the Oslo accords

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2. cbzbc ◴[11 Apr 25 19:41 UTC] No.43657681[source]▶
The Oslo accords were intended - in the words of Rabin - to give the Palestinians 'less than a state', and arguably the division of the West Bank into Areas A, B and C have allowed for the expansion of settlements in the latter.

Whether the 1947 partition was accepted as a final state depends on who you ask, it's fairly clear that prominent figures viewed it as a stop along the way to a more comprehensive settlement. Take Ben Gurion ("After the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine.") or Chaim Weizmann ("partition might be only a temporary arrangement for the next twenty to twenty-five years"). Menachem Begin's Herut continued to use the slogan 'Both banks of the Jordan River", and this language is reflected in Likud's founding charter.

3. sfx77 ◴[12 Apr 25 03:27 UTC] No.43661086[source]▶
Not just 1947, Jews have been been in the area continuously and have bought land many times. 27 million dunams, which is equivalent to about 7-8 million acres if I'm not wrong, but were attacked since Jews are somehow an exception for owning land. During the same time period Israel was created, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and I believe 2-3 other Arab Muslim countries were created, yet those countries were not attacked.