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hx8 ◴[] No.43633780[source]
> But if we bump the cost of freight, insurance, and customs from $5 to, say, $28, then they wholesale the shoes to Footlocker for about $75. And if Footlocker purchases Nike shoes for $75, then they retail them for $150. Everyone needs to fixed percentages to avoid losses.

I don't understand this paragraph. If Footlocker was okay with $50 profit/shoe, why do they need to claim $75 profit/shoe in their costs per shoe go up? The costs of handling the shoes, retail space, advertising, and labor are all fixed.

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ty6853 ◴[] No.43633824[source]
Because the market recognized value add is the capital investment and returns, including the credit basis on which inventories flow. These people are operating on a per $ basis, not a per shoe basis. If the margins % lower then the capital will flow to something else more profitable and then prices rise until the margins are relatively flat across similar productive investments.
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pfannkuchen ◴[] No.43633994[source]
That doesn’t really make sense to me.

The market cares about dollar returned vs dollar invested. If some piece in the middle of the chain goes up and end customer prices go up as well, that doesn’t directly affect investors at all.

The way it could and likely will affect investors is if people start buying fewer shoes, but that is a different process than what you are describing.

If I’m off base can you help me understand what you are saying?

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hamburglar ◴[] No.43634128[source]
Surely you can see that putting in $75 to make $150 for a $75 profit is significantly different than putting in $10075 to make $10150 for the same $75 profit, yes?
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1. lupire ◴[] No.43634261[source]
"putting in" is doing a lot of work.

A shoe doesn't sit for a year waiting to be sold.

It turns over quickly.

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2. hamburglar ◴[] No.43642766[source]
Capital is capital. Just because you don’t need it for very long doesn’t make it free.