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duxup ◴[] No.43581973[source]
It feels like every pick of this administration is just someone who has a motivation for corruption.
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nine_zeros[dead post] ◴[] No.43582200[source]
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danaris ◴[] No.43582324[source]
I mean, genuinely, the problem here is not that Trump is a convicted criminal. There are many people who are "convicted felons" who are far more ethical, intelligent, and possessed of better leadership qualities than he is. In particular, a) anyone convicted of nonviolent drug offenses should not be considered suspect in anything like the same way, and b) more generally, if you base your determinations of people on what's legal, you put yourself at the mercy of whatever the current government decides is acceptable. This government should make very clear why that is not the best idea in the world.

No; the problem with Trump is the specific types of laws he broke. He broke laws around honesty, fair dealing, obstruction of justice, and, of course, the integrity of elections and our democratic process. He is, very plainly, opposed to democracy and the rule of law, preferring to replace it with cronyism and nepotism.

That's why he's bad for the country, not simply "because he's a convicted criminal."

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amelius ◴[] No.43582394[source]
> There are many people who (...)

True, but we're talking about expectations here.

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1. danaris ◴[] No.43582620[source]
...and?

I'm sorry, I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say here.

Are you saying it's normal or acceptable to have your expectations be that a "convicted criminal" is automatically a bad person?

If so, then particularly given the large and very-well-documented racial biases in arrest, prosecution, and conviction for crimes here in the US, perhaps you should consider adjusting those expectations?

If not, then please actually say what you mean clearly.

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2. amelius ◴[] No.43582779[source]
I don't know why you're attacking me, since I just responded to:

> Seriously, what does one really expect from an unethical convicted criminal?

and your subsequent comment on that.

3. hackyhacky ◴[] No.43583220[source]
> Are you saying it's normal or acceptable to have your expectations be that a "convicted criminal" is automatically a bad person?

I believe what the parent comment is trying to say is: someone who committed crimes in the past has evinced a lack of respect for the law, and is therefore more likely to commit crimes in the future than someone with a history of law-abiding.

"Bad person" is a value judgement, which is besides the point.