Trump's Police Are Now Disappearing Students for Their Op-Eds

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ranger_danger ◴[30 Mar 25 00:08 UTC] No.43519896[source]▶

>>43519864 (OP) #

> She was disappeared without due process or explanation

Then how do you know it was only because of an op-ed?

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1. deckar01 ◴[30 Mar 25 00:52 UTC] No.43520142[source]▶

>>43519896 #

> Friends and colleagues of Ms Öztürk said she was not closely involved in pro-Palestinian protests that broke out on campuses last spring. They said her only activism was co-authoring the Tufts op-ed.

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/105107664

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2. threeseed ◴[30 Mar 25 00:55 UTC] No.43520169[source]▶

>>43520142 (TP) #

Even if she was involved in protests the Constitution applies to non-citizens as well.

She has the right to protest provided she has committed no crime.

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3. omnimus ◴[30 Mar 25 10:03 UTC] No.43522908[source]▶

>>43520169 #

You can only protest the things that will not make it a crime. Protesting criminally is a crime.

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4. brandensilva ◴[30 Mar 25 10:23 UTC] No.43522979{3}[source]▶

>>43522908 #

Writing differing views is not a crime. Still, even if what she did was somehow illegal or they had a legimate legal reason to revoke her visa she deserves to be able to face her accuser and not be abducted and denied her life, liberty and property without due process.

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5. ranger_danger ◴[30 Mar 25 14:00 UTC] No.43524273[source]▶

>>43520169 #

I believe the terms of student visas could technically prohibit protesting for things unrelated to your field of study, if a judge decided to interpret it that way.

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6. omnimus ◴[30 Mar 25 18:22 UTC] No.43526316{4}[source]▶

>>43522979 #

Sorry it wasnt clear but that was my attempt at pure sarcasm.

I thought the situation is absolutely nonsensical. Being able to disagree with anyone is part of our social fabric. Once you ban that then wild stuff starts to happen.

7. AlecSchueler ◴[31 Mar 25 17:59 UTC] No.43537818{3}[source]▶

>>43524273 #

Surely constitutional rights take priority?

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8. ranger_danger ◴[31 Mar 25 18:19 UTC] No.43538010{4}[source]▶

>>43537818 #

Except violating the conditions of your visa would be a crime, no matter how free your speech is. And the First Amendment is about criticizing the US Government, not Israel.

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9. AlecSchueler ◴[31 Mar 25 19:41 UTC] No.43538984{5}[source]▶

>>43538010 #

The first amendment is about freedom of speech, not about criticising either the US or Israeli government. I don't believe that one can agree to waiver their constitutional rights so I'm not sure those visa conditions would be legal.

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10. ranger_danger ◴[31 Mar 25 19:55 UTC] No.43539143{6}[source]▶

>>43538984 #

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-1/

> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition *the Government* for a redress of grievances.

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11. AlecSchueler ◴[31 Mar 25 20:01 UTC] No.43539223{7}[source]▶

>>43539143 #

> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging *the freedom of speech, or of the press;* or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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