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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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1009 points n1b0m | 3 comments | 19 Mar 25 11:21 UTC | HN request time: 0.863s | source
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drumhead ◴[19 Mar 25 12:41 UTC] No.43411088[source]▶
If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjected to their own more oppressive and never ending hells, like being deported to a prison camp in Ecuador with no idea when you'd ever be released.

New America is absolutely terrifying.

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jajko ◴[19 Mar 25 12:56 UTC] No.43411264[source]▶
Smart immigrants shouldn't migrate to US anymore, period. Not if you have more than just very short-sighted dollar signs on your eyes. Its just plain out stupid thing to do, to be treated worse than garbage. This is how institutionalized xenophobia looks like.

The fact is, I've read very similar articles about how US treats any non-US citizens a decade or two ago. Nothing changed dramatically, people just bring these up now due to current admin. In US, if you are not a citizen, you are subhuman and treated as such, directly by government. Why the fuck would anybody with any amount of dignity cause it upon themselves willingly?

Europe can offer you tons of opportunities and treat you with dignity. Good quality of life and happiness is much easier to achieve, much less stress, your health and education of your kids will be taken care of. Or Australia. Heck, almost any other free place but current US, and many places experience much more actual personal freedom currently.

We can certainly do more than just boycott some nazi ev cars.

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twUewhag ◴[19 Mar 25 13:06 UTC] No.43411381[source]▶
Thanks, the EU is full and has enough immigrants. Why should EU citizens pay outrageous rents, compete against the whole world with their degrees, get lower wages and have prime property bought up by Chinese and Russian oligarchs?

(This does not mean that people should be treated brutally at the border.)

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1. thomasingalls ◴[19 Mar 25 15:04 UTC] No.43412957[source]▶
Isn't it obvious that this has more to do with oligarchs hoarding wealth than it does with "being full" of immigrants? Immigrants are nowhere near numerous enough to be doing the kind of damage you claim, but the extremely wealthy do have a stranglehold on resources.
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2. account42 ◴[20 Mar 25 12:49 UTC] No.43422407[source]▶
It's both. And immigrants help the wealthy class become even richer by providing cheap labor while everyone makes up the rest in social security payments.
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3. thomasingalls ◴[21 Mar 25 08:27 UTC] No.43433101[source]▶
Are you making the frequently repeated but always false assertion that immigrants don't pay into social security?

You know who's not paying their fair share into social security in any country? It's the rich, yo! It's the rich! By a wide margin!

To be perfectly clear, I don't care one way or the other about more immigration or less immigration.

What I am saying is that compound interest and the ability to purchase assets is going to continue to draw wealth away from everyone except the ultra wealthy, and immigration policy has effectively nothing to do with that.

Calling on everyone to hate each other is going to prevent us from acting together to solve this problem. We could instead work together, unionize, vote for policies and politicians that won't let the ultra wealthy continue to hoard their gold like dragons.